[Bryanw92]

>>Wrong debate; IMO, what we need to debate is collectivism* v. liberty-ism.

You need to do some reading. Transnational Progressivism is the catch-all for all forms of statism in the American culture. It is the Marxism that allows for private property so you can’t call it communism. It is the fascism that isn’t nationalist. In the US, the Progressive movement predates communism, socialism, and fascism. It is also the ideology that gave us the federal reserve and income taxes.

In the conservative movement, we need to learn what the real enemy is. If we attack bits and pieces of Progressivism, the Progs just say, “we’re not x-ism because we permit y”.

They call themselves Progressive so we don’t need to assign a name to them that they can refute.

[OneWingedShark]

And simply going with nationalism isn't going to do anything against the collectivism, socialism.

Thank you, but I don't think I want to be part of a national socialistic party.