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Original title: "Sebelius Bombshell: Employer Based Plans Will Face Same Grandfathering Caveats as Lost Individual Plans"

When the employer mandate delay runs out... Right after the election...

1 posted on 11/06/2013 2:51:25 PM PST by Da Bilge Troll
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To: Da Bilge Troll

There will be LARGE SCALE cancellations of employer sponsored health care plans effective with January 2015. I certainly hope that the impacted employers will let their employees know BEFORE the national election in November 2014—and make it clear that Obamacare is the reason for the cancellations.


2 posted on 11/06/2013 2:57:46 PM PST by House Atreides ( D)
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To: Da Bilge Troll

There will be LARGE SCALE cancellations of employer sponsored health care plans effective with January 2015. I certainly hope that the impacted employers will let their employees know BEFORE the national election in November 2014—and make it clear that Obamacare is the reason for the cancellations.


3 posted on 11/06/2013 2:58:04 PM PST by House Atreides ( D)
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To: Da Bilge Troll

I thought the delay ran out in Jan. 2014? Even if it is after the election, won’t the letters go out before the election since people need notice?


4 posted on 11/06/2013 2:59:04 PM PST by yellowdoghunter (Welcome to Obamastan!)
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To: Da Bilge Troll

If that’s true, I don’t know the schedule, the Open Enrollment begins right before the election.


5 posted on 11/06/2013 2:59:34 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Damn ObamaCare, full speed ahead!)
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Pretty sure the employer plans are already subject to the Obamacare mandates in terms of what they cover. We just got our rate increases.

The delayed mandate to January 2015 is the one that says businesses over 50 workers must provide coverage to their employees or pay a penalty. So the delay of that may be pushing up our insurance prices, due to less people buying in this year, and/or lowering revenue to the government in the form of uncollected penalties. But the delay may be helping businesses otherwise keep their salaries higher, profits higher and prices lower.


6 posted on 11/06/2013 2:59:41 PM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: Da Bilge Troll

I wonder how many of the 93 million will be affected in such a way that they’ll feel they have nothing to lose?

Many British soldiers were killed for a lot, lot less.


7 posted on 11/06/2013 3:00:40 PM PST by Principled
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One can only hope this results in millions of people taking their country back. This marxist madness has to end.


8 posted on 11/06/2013 3:01:35 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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The millepede known as 0bamaCare will be dropping shoes like this for years.


12 posted on 11/06/2013 3:17:24 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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If this happens, the Rat party is finished.


13 posted on 11/06/2013 3:25:39 PM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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What they didn't mention is the "grandfathering" process comes with caveats, meaning if plans didn't meet new Obamacare standards, they would be cancelled.

Which Republican Senator asked her the question: and who the hell are you to decide the type of plan each American should have?

16 posted on 11/06/2013 3:35:15 PM PST by capydick (''Life's tough.......it's even tougher if you're stupid.'')
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How are the plans “grandfathered” if they must meet the same requirements as newly introduced plans?? That’s what grandfathering MEANS, waiving of new requirements for activities that pre-dated a law. In fact, in a lot of areas, it’s more or less automatic. Let’s say NHTSA decides that headlights must be visible from the side of vehicles. This doesn’t criminalize all the existing cars on the road that don’t comply. But beyond that, I can’t understand what the administration means about plans being “grandfathered” if they don’t get a waiver from new rules. The word has no meaning otherwise.


17 posted on 11/06/2013 4:00:11 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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Employers, big ones, are already telling people that didn’t pick the high end plans (which are in compliance with 0care) would automatically be put into the high end plans.

Fortunately some people had already picked the high end plans so there will be no effect on them.


18 posted on 11/06/2013 4:01:26 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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Ping for later


20 posted on 11/06/2013 4:31:29 PM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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