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Docs resisting ObamaCare
New York Post ^ | October 29, 2013 | 5:23am | Carl Campanile

Posted on 10/29/2013 5:24:14 AM PDT by Hojczyk

New York doctors are treating ObamaCare like the plague, a new survey reveals.

A poll conducted by the New York State Medical Society finds that 44 percent of MDs said they are not participating in the nation’s new health-care plan.

Another 33 percent say they’re still not sure whether to become ObamaCare providers.

Only 23 percent of the 409 physicians queried said they’re taking patients who signed up through health exchanges.

“This is so poorly designed that a lot of doctors are afraid to participate,” said Dr. Sam Unterricht, president of the 29,000-member organization. “There’s a lot of resistance. Doctors don’t know what they’re going to get paid.”

Three out of four doctors who are participating in the program said they “had to participate” because of existing contractual obligations with an insurer or medical provider, not because they wanted to.

Only one in four “affirmatively” chose to sign up for the exchanges.

Nearly eight in 10 — 77 percent — said they had not been given a fee schedule to show much they’ll get paid if they sign up.

The survey invited doctors to anonymously share opinions about the new health care

“Obama Care wants to start right away, but who see all these new patients???? Not me,” e-mailed one doc.

Another said, “I plan to retire if this disaster is implemented. This is a train wreck.”

“I refuse to participate in the exchange plans! I am completely opposed to this new law,” said a third respondent.

One doctor recycled the mantra used to attack addictions: “The solution is simple: Just say no.”

One physician was so disgusted, he threatened to taken only cash patients going forward.

“I am seriously considering opting out of all insurance plans including Medicare because of [ObamaCare].”

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To: Starboard; BunnySlippers
Lastly, if they have any real concern for patients, they should stop this thing now. The quality of healthcare will certainly decline under Obamacare and its death panels.

A big majority of doctors are Pubs and fought this monster. It was forced on us without a single Pub vote in the House or Senate. What else can they do?

I understand doctors pulling out of any insurance reimbursement. By doing so they eliminate a lot of overhead and get to do what they really enjoy. They get to practice medicine. They get to spend a lot more time with their patients. They get to be more involved in seeing positive outcomes and the quallity of their work environment is vastly improved.

21 posted on 10/29/2013 6:04:50 AM PDT by wmfights
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To: BunnySlippers
Well, you know where this is going. You will be urged to see a nurse-practioner. And you will see masses of doctors for India, Pakistan, Philipines, etc.

There are already radio spots flooding the airwaves singing the wonders of NPs.

22 posted on 10/29/2013 6:05:48 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: wmfights
doctors pulling out of any insurance reimbursement. By doing so they eliminate a lot of overhead and get to do what they really enjoy.

So, can you make the insurance company to reimburse you for the visit?

23 posted on 10/29/2013 6:07:00 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ("The government" is nothing but a RAT jobs program)
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To: MrB
“One of the offensive things in Hillarycare that they left out of this (learning their lesson) was the criminalization of getting or providing care outside of the system.

But... without (and maybe even with) that “feature”, people will not participate in the system.”

I remember that part of Hillarycare. She was even more fanatical than Obama. She seems to be escaping blame on Benghazigate too.

24 posted on 10/29/2013 6:07:16 AM PDT by FR_addict
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To: 43north
health care

This is a RATaganda term which somehow came into existence a decade or so back.

It used to simply mean treatment or therapy from a provider, but its meaning was changed to include 'preventative care" and insurance as the RATs progressively destroyed it. "Healthcare is a right"

We used to have major medical insurance as a viable product, that has been vanishing from the radar.

25 posted on 10/29/2013 6:13:35 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ("The government" is nothing but a RAT jobs program)
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To: wmfights

Think of Obamacare as catastrophic coverage [if you can], then see your doc that you like. You should be getting a big discount but may have to pay cash.


26 posted on 10/29/2013 6:15:16 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
So, can you make the insurance company to reimburse you for the visit?

If the doctor is in the network you can submit the bill and look for reimbursement. I haven't gone that route. The coverage I'm going to have is more for catastrophic problems ($10,000 deductible). The fee I pay to my doctor covers my appointments, free labs and tests that they can do in their office, any labs that are sent out are at the rate they pay, 24 hour access to the doctor (we have his cell phone number), and appointments are same day or next day.

27 posted on 10/29/2013 6:15:18 AM PDT by wmfights
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

The term is much older than that. When I was a liberal medical student back in the late 60s, “Health care is a right” was bruited about plenty back then.


28 posted on 10/29/2013 6:15:20 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: FR_addict

- “I want to take those (oil company) profits.....” - Hillary Rodham Clinton


29 posted on 10/29/2013 6:15:29 AM PDT by devolve (- "He's (Obama) just 'too talented' to do what 'ordinary people' do." - Iran-born Valerie Jarrett)
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To: wmfights

“...they are going to drop their health insurance plan and give their employees a flat fee to buy their own insurance.”


I believe this has been the goal all along. This system will successfully remove the untaxable “benefit” from behind the employer-employee relationship and expose it to the IRS as taxable income of the employee.

Recall that the benefit of employer provided health insurance has its roots in a way to go around wage and price controls (I believe back in the 1940s). It hasn’t been taxable up to this point, but these lump-sum pay-outs will now be, to some extent.


30 posted on 10/29/2013 6:15:33 AM PDT by nesnah (Liberals - the petulant children of politics)
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To: nesnah
Recall that the benefit of employer provided health insurance has its roots in a way to go around wage and price controls (I believe back in the 1940s). It hasn’t been taxable up to this point, but these lump-sum pay-outs will now be, to some extent.

You are so right!

It started in response to FDR freezing wages.

31 posted on 10/29/2013 6:18:51 AM PDT by wmfights
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To: wmfights
I had a dental extraction done by a very fine surgeon who does not take insurance. Patients pay that day. What they will do is fill out the verification forms for patients whose insurance companies would reimburse the patient.

It was so refreshing to go to a medical professional to whom I did not have to explain that I was paying my own bill. Besides that, the whole deal was very well run, the cost was reasonable, and her mind wasn't filled with insurance company guidelines.

32 posted on 10/29/2013 6:18:55 AM PDT by grania
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To: MrB
One of the offensive things in Hillarycare that they left out of this (learning their lesson) was the criminalization of getting or providing care outside of the system.

That will come with single-payer.

33 posted on 10/29/2013 6:22:10 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: grania
...and her mind wasn't filled with insurance company guidelines.

I think this is going to become the major characteristic of the two tiered system we are headed into. Doctors outside the system will be more focused on their patients and under less pressure to see a high volume of patients. They will be able to order tests when they aren't sure about something and won't have to wait for approval from someone who has no sense of the immediacy of the issue.

In the end the best doctors will want to work in that environment.

34 posted on 10/29/2013 6:23:56 AM PDT by wmfights
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To: COBOL2Java
That will come with single-payer.

I wonder, will the elites want to be stuck in the same system or will they figure they can just get on a plane and travel outside the USA for care.

35 posted on 10/29/2013 6:26:27 AM PDT by wmfights
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To: 43north
The obamabots are going to learn that there is a big difference between having health insurance and receiving health care.

The heart of the matter. Ultimately, loyalty to the regime will be come the determining factor.

36 posted on 10/29/2013 6:33:38 AM PDT by Noumenon (What would Michael Collins do?)
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To: BunnySlippers

I have a family member who is in nursing school, and they are frantically being trained in how do to many tasks formerly done by a doctor.


37 posted on 10/29/2013 6:36:30 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Starboard

No, Obama will just bring in more doctors whose names you can’t pronounce


38 posted on 10/29/2013 6:39:56 AM PDT by hecht (america 9/11, Israel 24/7)
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To: wmfights

I would expect more doctors to drop out of taking medicaid as they get overwhelmed and see no financial reward for the increased hours and aggravation they will have to live with.

Medicaid recipients are some of the most voracious and demanding consumers of health care. It is a perfect storm of emboldened entitlement and nothing to do but go to doctors and ER’s searching for drugs from narcotics to something for every sniffle and sneeze. And woe to those who don’t put them at the front of the line and provide them with the BEST with a smile on their face. Trust me, I know.

16 posted on October 29, 2013 7:57:15 AM CDT by wmfights


39 posted on 10/29/2013 6:40:48 AM PDT by usmom
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To: wmfights
I wonder, will the elites want to be stuck in the same system or will they figure they can just get on a plane and travel outside the USA for care.

Let's ask the elites your question...


40 posted on 10/29/2013 6:43:35 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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