Posted on 10/17/2013 12:06:37 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan
The speaker is chosen on the first day of every new Congress and serves until the beginning of the next one. Absent Boehner resigning how do they plan on replacing him?
Meagan is MAD at you for that sassy remark about her Daddy!
Conservatives have a majority of the Republican caucus, but moderates have about 1/3 of the caucus and there are some outright liberal Democrats (like Peter King) in the caucus. The Republicans hold a caucus meeting, and conservatives depose Boehner and a majority of the caucus votes for someone conservative, like Steve King or Louie Gohmert. Now, the liberals and moderates are unhappy with that, as they are actually progressives who don't want to roll back socialism, just slow it down a little. And progressive Republicans know how to fight, but they only do it when fighting against conservatives. So they will push back.
They will say that if you don't compromise with them and find a speaker that they can agree with, they will not vote for the conservative candidate, notwithstanding that the majority of the caucus has voted for the conservative. It only takes 17 or 18 libs to deny the conservatives their candidate. And thus, we get a stalemate.
In California, in that situation, the Dems approached some liberal Republican and offered to use their votes to make him speaker. There was only a one or two vote majority, so it was easier to engineer that deal, but I bet Pelosi could find 17 Republican votes to make a Peter King type speaker. If she can't the stalemate continues until one side or the other gives in, or they find a candidate that they compromise on. Maybe Paul Ryan, reliably GOPe, formerly considered conservative, or someone like that.
I am not saying that this is how it would go down, but I am pointing out that it could get complicated and messy trying to get rid of Boehner when so many Republicans are progressive and absolutely hate conservatives. When Gingrich became speaker, it was not a problem, because he had spent years making the majority happen, and was the one who did it, and because his caucus did not have as many quislings. Back then, Boehner was a conservative. It took years of DC corruption to turn so many conservatives into squishy moderates and/or just plain old political hacks.
So, by all means, let's dump Boehner and vote a conservative in as speaker, but be on the lookout for all kinds of shenanigans.
You got it. “Under new management” that’s as bad as the old management. We aren’t buying it this time.
The GOP has absolutely no credibility, no significance, and no principles. Other than that I guess its OK for some people. lol
I think Boner is Weiner? Boehner is another loser.
Oh, for a moment there I thoughy you were referring to Megyn Kelly. ;)
Weiner would actually be a better speaker than Boner. At least he has an aggressive streak in him.
Then Megan can tell me so. I send that often and to date have never gotten a response. :-)
The sooner, the better. And no to Eric Cantor or McCarthy.
Very good and informative post. You have a good grasp of the political dynamics and explain it well.
I would love to see Louie Gohmert as speaker but realize the chances of that happening are slim and none.
Regards.
Yeah, like he did in 2011. I’m done. Never again will I hold any hope that these spineless scumbags will do what we elected them to do...
Up next, Eric Cantor (PUKE) !???
It looks like the replacement options are bad, worse, and horrible.
And then he will join Trent Lott’s lobbying firm.
I’ll believe it when I see it. hussein only “retires” those whom he can replace with one of his Brotherhood buds. He’s got a good butt kisser in Boehner so there’s no reason for him to leave.
It was badder than I figured, thought we would at least get a crumb or two.
Looks like Mr. Boehner is going to be Sehr Verklempt in short order. I often wonder how he manages to do this intensely public, intensely procedural sort of work dry eyed and poker faced, given his natural sensitivity. I’m not trying to make fun of him, I come from a family that cries and laughs very easily, the men too. It has become a rare event these days, to see Boehner welling up behind the podium, thank God. I’m inclined to think there may be some medication that keeps his tension at bay, just enough so he doesn’t publicly bawl as much. When Boehner first assumed his post, I was stunned, mortified that this was happening to a Republican leader. I worry about Boehners state of well being when he finally gets the boot. The more likely scenario, is that no one wants to play Bad Cop long enough to tell him, it’s suddenly something we all agree on, John. Spend more time with you family.
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