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House to move its own debt plan
The Hill ^ | October 15, 2013 | Russell Berman

Posted on 10/15/2013 7:34:57 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

House Republicans will vote Tuesday on a more conservative version of the Senate fiscal deal that would include a delay of Obamacare's medical device tax and scrapping of subsidies for members of Congress and top Cabinet officials, lawmakers and aides said.

The bill would modify an emerging Senate plan crafted by Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and GOP Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.), but retain that deal's extension of the debt ceiling through Feb. 7.

It would also keep the Senate measure's plan of funding the government through Jan. 15 and immediately end the shutdown.

That's a shift from last weekend, when House Republicans wanted to open negotiations with the White House on ending the shutdown while extending the debt ceiling for six months.

The House GOP bill would prevent members of Congress as well as Cabinet members, the president and the vice president from getting taxpayer subsidies to use on ObamaCare, but it would not prevent staff from getting the subsidies.

The healthcare law requires lawmakers and their staffs to get health insurance through ObamaCare.

House Republicans argue that if Obama and Senate Democrats are going to force the American people to live under ObamaCare, they should not be shielded from the law.

The bill would also eliminate a provision granted to unions in the Senate bill that would delay a tax on reinsurance that labor says would fall heavily on its members.

Under the healthcare reform law, states are required to set up a transitional reinsurance program aimed at stabilizing premiums. As part of that transition, companies providing healthcare will be required to pay $63 per covered person in 2014, as well as lower fees the following two years.

It would also delay the tax on medical devices in the healthcare law. Reid has pushed aggressively to prevent any delay or repeal of that tax in a deal, according to Senate aides, though many senators oppose the tax.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: debt; obamacare; sequester; shutdown
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1 posted on 10/15/2013 7:34:57 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I know it’s not going to be ‘popular’, but the “more conservative version) house bill has not gone far enough.

ABSOLUTELY NO ONE should enjoy waivers, exempt or any such thing. Obama, Pelosi unions and progressives want to enact this ‘law of the land’ onto the nation, they should be made shining examples of said law.

Don’t do the short term deal to ‘open up’ the government - once gop retreat on this, they are DONE!


2 posted on 10/15/2013 7:47:00 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Wow.

Scrapping that medical device tax will truly help the little people who are to be tyrannized by obamacare.

S/

P.S. The Senate GOP is a sick joke. But ALL of them in both bodies, save for a few stalwarts, are useless to the people who sent them there to represent us.


3 posted on 10/15/2013 7:47:14 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear." (Glenn Beck))
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To: txrangerette
Scrapping that medical device tax will truly help the little people who are to be tyrannized by obamacare. S/

Yes. It's for their K Street lobbyist pals who they hope to join asap.

4 posted on 10/15/2013 7:52:33 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Sir Napsalot

Waivers, IMHO, are unconstitutional.


5 posted on 10/15/2013 7:53:16 AM PDT by biff (WAS)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Maybe they want to run against union waver and indiv mandate penalty. Strategery?


6 posted on 10/15/2013 7:57:38 AM PDT by epluribus_2 (he had the best mom - ever.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Ironic, isn’t it?

The GOP complained that obamacare waivers only helped big business, not the individual.

But according to this, they have whittled down their proposals - by negotiating against themselves - to scrapping a tax that is levied against medical device manufacturers, without a peep about the suffering individual Americans.

I’m aware that taxes are passed down to consumers, but the issue at hand is that individual Americans are subject to a mandate that has been postponed for big business - under the GOP’s own proposal.

And that’s only in the House.

The Senate couldn’t be bothered with anything other than caving to the almighty Reid/Obama.

This is what passes for “conservativism” these days. It doesn’t deserve the word. It isn’t even watered down conservativism.

It’s nothing.

A big, fat zero.

Mark Levin makes the point daily. What does the Republican party stand for?

His answer sums it up. They are the STATUS QUO Republicans.

Whatever the STATUS QUO is (driven by the Left’s agenda), the Republicans end up preserving it.


7 posted on 10/15/2013 8:02:18 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear." (Glenn Beck))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

a delay of Obamacare’s medical device tax

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I saw a diagram showing the funding sources for Obamacare about a year ago. The medical device tax was intended to provide a significant amount of money to support the program. That was its main purpose.

So without this tax, it would seem that Obamacare is losing one of its funding “pillars” and will have to find money elsewhere to make up this shortfall. Where would this come from and who would be impacted?

Its just something that nobody seems to be talking about.


8 posted on 10/15/2013 8:04:03 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: txrangerette

Mark Levin makes the point daily. What does the Republican party stand for?

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Nothing. Absolutely nothing. A party without a soul.


9 posted on 10/15/2013 8:05:36 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Starboard

I understand.

That’s a reasonable summation.

I see it slightly different.

The Dems have no soul.

The Republicans have no guts.

But that’s just me.


10 posted on 10/15/2013 8:10:15 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear." (Glenn Beck))
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To: txrangerette

yes, they are like the UK conservatives since 1945 (except when Thatcher was leader)

the UK non-Thatcher tories have always accepted the overall policies of the Labour Party, and just quibbled about the details.


11 posted on 10/15/2013 8:11:44 AM PDT by Reverend Wright (1990 Budget Agreement: learn from other's mistakes)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The House GOP bill would prevent members of Congress as well as Cabinet members, the president and the vice president from getting taxpayer subsidies to use on ObamaCare,

There income is too high to qualify for subsidies.

12 posted on 10/15/2013 8:18:03 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

http://voices.suntimes.com/early-and-often/sweet/michelle-obamas-white-house-garden-a-weed-filled-wreck-victim-of-shutdown/


13 posted on 10/15/2013 8:18:24 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Raycpa

They need to make the staffers and all federal workers use Obamacare. That way the pain is felt right in DC.


14 posted on 10/15/2013 8:19:33 AM PDT by mrs9x
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Weasels, pretending they are going to have the same care as the common folk, while allowing all their staffs to have their Obamacare costs covered. Does anyone believe these elitists will not ensure they have the best Dr.’s and care via some other vehicle later when the outcry diminishes?


15 posted on 10/15/2013 8:22:42 AM PDT by wrencher
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To: mrs9x

And everything they are doing will be changed in the middle of the night while no one is looking.

Exactly what they did for that insider trading bill.


16 posted on 10/15/2013 8:26:45 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (President Stompyfeet....Priceless.)
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To: Starboard

A $1,000/month premium and a $12,000 deductible?


17 posted on 10/15/2013 8:35:04 AM PDT by matt04
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To: matt04

Conservatives are demanding that the full Vitter amendment for all staffers be put in the bill. I like that - if this ship is going down, the staffers and Congress critters better be on board.


18 posted on 10/15/2013 8:39:14 AM PDT by mrs9x
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

....this is the conservative alternative???????????


19 posted on 10/15/2013 8:42:05 AM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
WTF is wrong with the GOP leadership? Boehner goes before the mics.. A PERFECT opportunity to drive home the fact the 0bamacare website SUCKS, exemptions are UNCONSTITUTIONAL, 0bama is destroying our economy with more debt, willfully inflicting pain on WWII Veterans, blah blah blah.. So, WHAT does Boehner do? DUHHHHH DUHHHHH DUHHHHHHHHH!!!!

Boehner has NO message except 'BLAME US THE REPUBLICANS' while the Democrats are unified in their talking points! It's time for Boehner to step aside. He should CLEARLY state how and why 0bamacare is a train wreck. The Dems preach to the LIV's and Boehner should talk in a language the LIV's can understand, too.

20 posted on 10/15/2013 8:45:22 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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