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To: Uncle Chip

That cop did NOT hit the guy....
look at the video... if the perp had got hit in the chest, he would NOT have been moving around like that.

What’s up with this?


27 posted on 10/05/2013 6:33:33 AM PDT by Safrguns (PM me if you like to play Minecraft!)
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To: Safrguns

The guy did get hit in the chest and died a short way down the road.

The real cause of death in the majority of gun shots is blood loss, which takes time. Especially when you have a bunch of adrenaline in the blood stream.


38 posted on 10/05/2013 6:39:52 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Safrguns

The 9mm round is not very effective IMO. My guess is the Trooper hit him with a 9mm. A .45 would have put him down.


39 posted on 10/05/2013 6:40:26 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Safrguns

My guess it was a 9 mm bullet and the chest is a large area...unless you are hit in the heart you will bleed out slow....

Plus the adrenaline was pumping....

Not surprising at all....that video was real not hollyweird...


52 posted on 10/05/2013 6:52:22 AM PDT by Popman (Liberal wars are about killing people for humanitarian reasons...)
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To: Safrguns

If the bullet in his chest came from that dashcam officer’s gun, as it apparently did, then he hit him.

Watch as he gets back into his car — he’s bent over as if in pain.


54 posted on 10/05/2013 6:53:53 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Safrguns

“That cop did NOT hit the guy....look at the video... if the perp had got hit in the chest, he would NOT have been moving around like that.”

You sir, obviously have no self-defense, firearms, or medical training whatsoever. I am not attempting to be rude or condescending with such a statement, I am merely attempting to make an obvious factual statement.

The primary cause of death in cases of GSW (gunshot wound) is exsanguination - that is, blood loss. That can take several minutes to kill someone, and several minutes is a long-damned time when someone is pointing a gun at you and refusing to bleed out faster.

Even a hypothetical perfect shot in the “ten ring” that, again hypothetically due to ideal body positioning, perforates both lungs and damages some of the major blood vessels around the heart, such as the venae cavae, it may be several minutes before the person finally expires.

Fatal wounds do not mean instantly fatal nor instantly incapacitating.

As a mental exercise, hold your breath. While holding your breath, point your index finger at an object and start counting off seconds. If you had a gun in your hands, pointed at someone, and you lost the use of your lungs, how many seconds could you continue to pull the trigger? You may be a dead man standing, but you can still stand, and walk, and kill if you so choose. Likewise, your brain has enough blood in it to allow you to continue functioning for several seconds if all blood flow to it were cut off, plenty of time to squeeze off a couple of shots.

The reality is that you, or anyone else, can sustain fatal wounds and in many cases continue to function for several minutes. This is to be expected. This is not abnormal, it is normal. Any expectation contrary to this will leave you surprised and ineffective in a self-defense situation.


70 posted on 10/05/2013 7:26:19 AM PDT by jameslalor
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To: Safrguns

Lets see the toxicology report. Bet he was either high or on adrenalin.

Depending where you were shot, unless it was in the heart, spinal cord or brain you would be amazed how much damage a person can take before they bleed out.


87 posted on 10/05/2013 10:55:59 AM PDT by Kolath
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