Posted on 09/28/2013 10:26:19 AM PDT by servo1969
Headline at Drudge Report "DELAY OBAMACARE A YEAR OR WE WILL SHUT IT DOWN - BOEHNER MAKES MOVE"
If they delay it by one year it is going to be one big mess with all the people who have been dumped from their insurance at work to push them into the exchanges.
I have Io say reading this thread is entertaining.
First, there will be no delay. The senate will reject this as early as tomorrow,
Second. The dens not being able to hold caucus together is funny. The one thing they are is unified. The republican caucus is cracked up and down. Should Boehner put a clean CR out there it would pass easy.
Third the Dems will be blamed. Read a poll. There are plenty out there all showing same thing. Congress specifically house republicans will be blamed:
Fourth. A shutdown is no big deal. This is said every time there is a shutdown. Yet one side caves pretty quick because real world problems come up. All Feds that work get IOU ‘s which trickle down to landlords, shop owners, grocers ect ect. I put the under over at a week. The r’s will cave and not only will we be no better but actually worse because we held out then caved and lost.
Lastly I know I will get flamed for this and I will fight for the cause. I am only telling you this. Mark this post and talk to me in 10 days. The train wreck coming is obvious. With that said I will climb in the engine with you. Maybe I am wrong.
There will likely be a shutdown, but now we've got Ted Cruz leading the charge. The House pubbies are reportedly thrilled with the strength of this stance, so they too will be loudly and widely shouting the despicable condition of Obiecare: the exemptions, the costs, the privacy issue, the unions, the exchanges, the delays, EVERYTHING about it is screwed up.
A one year delay makes it an election issue. We're gonna' kill the bastards, just like 2010, which is where we find the final answer.
Oooh, wow! A year! Big whoopty do! Smash it. Beat it. Burn it. Bury it.
You're right. The fact that the Collaborators DON'T shut the government down EVERY TIME this comes up, tells you that they're cowards.
Many of those are Obastard voters. Might make them think twice when they go vote for their Rep and possibly Senator. Also their local pols who cooperated with Obastard to set up the “exchanges” will have some ‘splainin’ to do.
I am sorry for the ones who didn’t vote Rat, and always whisper, “there but for the Grace of God go I.” But this would help focus their minds right before they go vote.
Sure he can. It's just a matter of who blinks first.
Despite having the media 100% behind him, eventually Obama will be seen as the bad guy. Everyone hates Obamacare, and everyone knows who it's named after.
I’m waiting for Sen Cruz to speak up. If he says go with a delay, then I’m supporting him. If he says don’t go with a delay, then I’m supporting him.
I think you’re likely correct on all points. The GOPe has not shown enough backbone to hold any plan together. But they’re sure as heck not going to if *we* don’t know what to plan for.
The point is the GOPe needs to try. They need to put up little roadblocks, little billboards like this day in and day out. They need to make the difference between the GOP and Democrats as public as possible as often as possible.
RINO’s just want to be friends with the commies
Boehner is either a terrible poker player, corrupt, or he's playing for the other team.
Defunding is the opening position. Stick to it as long as you can.
The compromise, if necessary, is delay.
They should have passed this on Monday to put it in the Senate hands and have them be the last ones with the bill before shutdown.
When does Boehner start crying?
Is he tanned to an Ooompa Loompa Orange today?
Exactly, and we need the uninformed voters to start paying or we won’t have leverage in 2014. This is not a good idea from where I sit...
It won't work. The shut down won't stop SS, or medicare. The only group that might get hit that we care about is military personnel.
History is doomed to repeat itself here because the Republican Party doesn't have the message out that a "shutdown" doesn't mean Grandma and Grandpa will go hungry, homeless or die.
We can only hope! We won the last shutdown BIG TIME! The budget was brought under control which is what the battle was all about. Also, with no conservative, or honest media, in the market at the time the Pubs ended up only losing 2 seats in the House.
Still wanna take the bet?
YES!
The Pubs aren't over reaching and the Rats are being set up as the defenders of something the majority of Americans oppose. The Pubs are being "reasonable" and obama has painted himself into a corner with his "no negotiating" with Pubs, yet he is negotiating with Iran, Syria & Russia.
When you speak of getting rid of the *astards, it’s not just the dems. We’ve got to get rid of the saboteurs in the Republican Party.
I agree Okie.. They aren't ready for the start, Oct 1st, and won't be ready until spring.. This delay will allow them to get the obvious bugs out..
BUT, the longer this thing dangles, the Dem's and Obonga squirm in open sight.. There is a chance the polls keep dipping and we get more and more leverage to modify, change, delete, and improve the piece of crap, the better..
This law will never be entirely cancelled, bet the farm on it, but if we are going to be stuck with it, it can be improved, a lot..
We ALSO need to go FULL BLAST to make CERTAIN our Military votes get delivered on time AND COUNTED!!!!!! Enough of the horse crap of them “not getting there in time”!!!!!!!
ENOUGH Liberal cheating! Enough of the SILENCING those that are putting their lives on the line for the RIGHT to vote!
Our military votes sould be counted FIRST, not tossed into the ocean and claiming they were “lost”!!!!!!
(rant off)
I got a letter from my insurance company yesterday (Blue Cross) that said my current plan would be discontinued and I needed to get one of the Obamacare plans. Oh, and they doubled my premium too. I didn’t find that out until page three of the notice.
I don’t know what they’re going to do if this thing gets delayed.
Boehner should say, "Obama's not budging? Well we aren't either. Here's the bill again."
And then take off on a golf vacation.
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