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LIVE Thread: Senate cloture vote. Guess the number of RINOs that vote to support "Dingy" Harry
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Posted on 09/27/2013 6:59:01 AM PDT by ken5050

Senate just came into session. Happily, Dingy Harry is sparing us any commentary early on this morning, as is McConnell. Debate goes until 12:10, at which time there is 30 minutes reserved for majority and minority leaders , then the vote. Will there be any more GOP intramural fireworks on the senate floor?


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 113th; cloture; cloturevote; cr; crcloturevote; cruz; obamacare; senate
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To: Joann37

Cross-dressers are soooooooooooo difficult to recognize!


801 posted on 09/27/2013 11:26:10 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Mozilla
“BUT, Republicare wasn’t caused by Ted Cruz or Mike Lee.”

No it was cause by Romney, McCain and McConnell and the rest.


yep
And Boehner-Don't forget Boehner.

So now Boehner and his cohorts (who aren't just in the senate) have been pulling the strings all along.

Brace yourself because here comes the next round of bullshit.
802 posted on 09/27/2013 11:26:14 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: Red Steel; Deo volente

I wasn’t paying close attention, but I think you’re right - the same two, Hatch and Flake.


803 posted on 09/27/2013 11:26:21 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: onyx

(202) 863-8500! RNC!
Ask to be REMOVED FROM THEIR MAILING OR CALLING LIST!
We MUST make a statement TODAY!!


804 posted on 09/27/2013 11:27:07 AM PDT by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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...and fundraising letters,calls, and emails.


805 posted on 09/27/2013 11:27:14 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: Errant
"Each time I see Cruz, I envision an Old West hero. :)"

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*snicker*

Yes, now every time I see or hear Ted Cruz - the Old West hero will be right there in my mind.

Course, he could be today's Old West hero, now that I think about it!

806 posted on 09/27/2013 11:28:33 AM PDT by hummingbird (Don't be afraid of the big words.)
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To: RedMDer

Only now do we have to pay a fine or tax for NOT buying something.
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Think of it as not owning a car but getting a ticket for not having auto insurance..


807 posted on 09/27/2013 11:28:41 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

I love you Nana. We are in the final American death spiral, so I thought I’d tell you that.


808 posted on 09/27/2013 11:30:30 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: novemberslady

Do we have a Cruz in the House? If so, we ask them to either keep clause to defund Obamacare or fund it for $1.00 and either defund IRS or cut it in half.

Reason? House won’t be bullied by Senate.

Americans hate bullies and we need to get that tag on Democrats asap.


809 posted on 09/27/2013 11:32:26 AM PDT by Kenny (<p>)
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To: onyx

These are defining votes for those up for primaries, to be primaried out, in 2014.


810 posted on 09/27/2013 11:33:48 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: ken5050
But the efforts of Ted Cruz were noy for naught:

What We Just Saw
By Michael Walsh
National Review Online
September 25, 2013 6:11 PM

In the aftermath of Senator Ted Cruz’s epic performance on the Senate floor, a few observations:

*After his disgraceful attacks on Cruz, including his reach-across-the-aisle, dog-in-the-manger response today, this should be the end of Senator John McCain as a voice of influence in the Republican party. Ditto his mini-me, Senator Lindsey Graham. Indeed, the entire Old Guard of business-as-usual “comity” fans passeth. When you care more about what the other side thinks, it’s probably time either to switch teams or step down.

* There is new leadership in the GOP, whether the party wants to admit it or not: Cruz, Rand Paul, Mike Lee, Jeff Sessions, and the others who stepped into the breach to spell the senator from Texas.

* The popular reaction to Cruz will be immediate and noticeable; the more the old bulls carp, the more the public will rally to Cruz’s side. The country has been spoiling for a real fight since the election of 2008, and now it has one.

* Conservatives have finally realized that, as it’s currently constituted, they have no home in the Republican party, which is the Washington Generals to the Democrats’ Harlem Globetrotters, the designated losers who nevertheless are rewarded handsomely for their sham opposition.

* To that end, conservatives understand that rather than form a third party, their only hope is to seize control of the corrupt, rotting hulk of the GOP, which they now can do with the help of a reinvigorated Tea Party — especially with Lois Lerner’s IRS off its back.

* The Cruz faction in the Senate, and its allies in the House (whose leadership is now up for grabs) must now press their advantage. The louder the Democrats squawk, the more they are wounded; the one thing they’ve long feared is a direct assault on their core beliefs as translated into actions, and the deleterious effects of Obamacare, just now being felt by the population, are the most vivid proof of the failure of Progressivism that conservatives could wish for.

* Win or lose, the battle is now joined: First the struggle for the GOP and then the battle for control of Congress and the presidency. Cruz just struck at the kings he could reach — the Republican “leadership” — and has most likely dealt them a fatal blow. Now the Tea Party hordes must back him up by eliminating his opponents (who tend to be geriatrics, and thus “leaders” by longevity rather than talent or commitment) through the primary process wherever possible. If he can carry off this coup, he and Senator Paul will very quickly find themselves elevated from back-benchers to commanders.

* Nevertheless, control of the Congress by the current GOP “leadership” would only serve to increase frustration on the right. The citizenry does not want “deals” or more legislation — it wants action.

* There is no reason to think the Tea Party, if properly organized and harnessed, cannot be even more potent next year than it was in 2010, especially now that its members know the government really was out to get them. Make Chuck Schumer and Dick Durbin into the faces of the Democratic party and watch the votes peel away from the Left.

* Any party that cannot successfully sell freedom and personal liberty doesn’t deserve power. The trick will be to explain — by word and deed — that the Democrats’ Manichaean choice (Big Brother or the orphanage) is a false one, that less can be more, and that the restoration of a Republic of self-reliant citizens will benefit all Americans — not simply the government class and its clients.

811 posted on 09/27/2013 11:39:22 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Deo volente

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=113&session=1&vote=00209

Flake and Hatch


812 posted on 09/27/2013 11:39:40 AM PDT by deport
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To: Red Steel

You are absolutely right!


813 posted on 09/27/2013 11:41:00 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Kenny

Bachmann is, but she is soon out in 2015. The best person after her is Steve King from Iowa. Also there is Louie Gohmert and Joe Wilson.


814 posted on 09/27/2013 11:41:27 AM PDT by Mozilla
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To: pollywog

Exactly so, dearest pollywog.
God bless and keep you.


815 posted on 09/27/2013 11:41:32 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: deport

Jeff Flake is a flake and Orrin Hatch is a hack.


816 posted on 09/27/2013 11:42:42 AM PDT by Mozilla
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To: Kenny; novemberslady

Trey Gowdy and Louis Gohmert and good, right?


817 posted on 09/27/2013 11:43:26 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Kenny
Do we have a Cruz in the House?

gotta tell you that made me laugh-I don't know why. Thanks

It doesn't matter until they kick Boehner and his buddy Cantor off the stage.

Because imo obama owns boehner with cantor a close second there.
818 posted on 09/27/2013 11:44:16 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: longfellowsmuse
From another thread;

Once that hurdle was cleared, the rest of the votes were preordained. The Senate waived budget rules, voted to strip out the Obamacare defunding on a 54-44 party line vote, and passed the bill.

I get it now. By voting this way the RINOs can say "hey! I voted against it!"Thus providing them cover knowing full well it doesn't mean a thing except they went against the will of their constituents..again. Thanks for the explanation, I have never understood cloture..

819 posted on 09/27/2013 11:45:18 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Barack Barry Hussein Soetoro Obama, America's first woman president..)
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To: onyx
Trey Gowdy and Louis Gohmert and good, right?

Great choices :)
820 posted on 09/27/2013 11:46:43 AM PDT by novemberslady
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