Senate votes 100-0 to move ahead on debate over Obamacare

Los Angeles Times ^ | 09/25/2013 | Lisa Mascaro

[SeekAndFind]

The Senate easily overcame Wednesday

[deport]

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=113&session=1&vote=00205

U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 113th Congress - 1st Session

as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of
the Secretary of the Senate

Vote Summary

Question: On the Cloture Motion (Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Motion to Proceed to H.J.Res. 59 )

Vote Number: 205
Vote Date: September 25, 2013, 12:55 PM

Required For Majority: 3/5
Vote Result: Cloture Motion Agreed to
Vote Counts:
YEAs 100
NAYs 0

[11th_VA]

I like the new tactic Cruz is using. All the way back to the 80's, establishment Republican's loved conservatives but would never return the favor in-kind. John Warner (VA Senator) actually recruited an independent to run for Senate when Ollie North got the nomination.

They hate us - it's time to move on without them ...

[grania]

Okay, so then the HOR gets that bill and it's still not law, is it? At that point, can't the HOR send the US Senate one bill at a time, each funding separate things?

I think what Cruz did is got a lot of normal citizens involved. Can the US Senate really vote against the Defense bill (etc) with the deadline looming?

One takeaway from the filubuster this AM is that Cruz is a real lot smarter than is Harry Reid. The differnece is like what I'd imagine if Putin and Obama played a chess match.

[hawkaw]

I am really hoping that is what they do but I don’t know. It sounds pretty complicated.

[b4its2late]

Yes, Cruz wants it Friday when we are able to see it all develop, but knowing Reid, that snake, he’ll have it Saturday when we won’t be as vigilant.

[mrsmith]

His most powerful weapon is the media that covers up what he’s doing and misreports what Cruz is doing.

I bet the only thing media watchers know of what Cruz actually said in those 18 or however many hours is that he read “Green Eggs and Ham”.

[cotton1706]

“Okay, so then the HOR gets that bill and it’s still not law, is it? At that point, can’t the HOR send the US Senate one bill at a time, each funding separate things?
I think what Cruz did is got a lot of normal citizens involved. Can the US Senate really vote against the Defense bill (etc) with the deadline looming?”

No, it’s not law, still a bill. And yes, the House can send bills to the senate one bill at a time, but in the mean time, the other parts of the government would be shut down until individual bills or a composite bill is/are passed and signed. This is what the republicans are afraid of. And why Reid and the senate did not pass a budget for four years so the government could run on continuing resolutions and these scary deadlines can keep coming.

Keep in mind that even if the Senate passed the current CR (with or without Obamacare), the funding would last only till December, when we get to do this all over again, with the threat of the Christmas recess. See the game?? Graves original bill in the House called for funding for a year, Boehner, etc. changed it to three months.

[Idaho_Cowboy]

His most powerful weapon is the media that covers up what he’s doing and misreports what Cruz is doing.

I bet the only thing media watchers know of what Cruz actually said in those 18 or however many hours is that he read “Green Eggs and Ham”.

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Yep, and they won't include the video of how he still managed to keep it on topic by using the story as an illustration of trying to convince the people that they like Obamacare when they don't.

[struggle]

PEOPLE RELAX. VOTING AGAINST THIS VOTE TO OPEN DEBATE IS A VOTE AGAINST THE CR (posturing).

[grania]

So Boehner is smart enough to know when his back’s against the wall?

[DoughtyOne]

Agreed...

[parksstp]

I think there should be a Monty Python clip of some sorts to explain the process:

“We have a vote to decide whether to vote on an issue requiring another vote to proceed and pass, or to vote on whether or not to vote for continuing debate, and then voting at some point in the future to have another vote on whether or not to vote on ending debate and voting to proceed and pass or voting to continue debate.”

eh, something like this.

[Usagi_yo]

I’m still trying to grasp how somebody could conceivably call this a GOP plot when the Vote was 100-0?

[cotton1706]

Boehner and Reid are in cahoots.

[X-spurt]

See Post #3

[Repeal The 17th]

“...I have an uncomfortable feeling this whole thing was about maximum TV time for Cruz...”
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Are you one of those low information voters?

[TexanByBirth]

And so many freepers buy into it.

That is because too many freepers lack reading comprehension!

[colorado tanker]

No. What Cruz is doing has no chance of success but sure is getting him a lot of TV time. Plus, overnight he has become the darling of FR and other conservatives without actually accomplishing anything. He won’t be up for reelection for years but wants the House Republicans, who are up for reelection next year, to take the political heat for him. That sets off my antennae.

[5thGenTexan]

This vote was to begin debate. The cloture vote is to end debate.

Cruz is fighting the cloture vote since after cloture, amendments can be added before a final vote. Reid has promised he would allow only one amendment: to re-instate funding of Obamacare.

The vote to end cloture takes 60 votes. The vote on the bill (with Reid's amendment) would be simple majority. The Republicans have the number to block cloture but not the bill vote; if they have the spine.

[eartick]

Very well explained