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Wide racial gap persists in education testing (even with affluent families)
Columbus Dispatch ^ | 9/22/2013

Posted on 09/23/2013 4:25:56 PM PDT by Altura Ct.

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To: Altura Ct.
So let me see if I understand. If white kids do better than black kids it is because of racism in the tests. If asian kids do better than white kids its.....?
41 posted on 09/23/2013 5:20:37 PM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Okay, not all black students but a whole lot more. Are blacks really less intelligent than whites? If so, why?

Genetics. Have you ever wondered why much of black Africa hasn't ever showed much technological advancement?

"There is no firm reason to anticipate that the intellectual capacities of peoples geographically separated in their evolution should prove to have evolved identically. Our wanting to reserve equal powers of reason as some universal heritage of humanity will not be enough to make it so."

42 posted on 09/23/2013 5:27:48 PM PDT by bigheadfred (INFIDEL)
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To: SeminoleCounty
Their own racism keeps them down...

Disparities between races had been narrowing until about five years ago, data show, but the numbers have changed little since then.

Gee, I wonder what happened about five years ago? What possibly could have had such a major impact?

Obama gonna make my car payment! Ha Ha

Obama gonna pay my rent! Tee Hee

We just hit the Lotto, Obama gonna buy my groceries!

We is never gonna have to work cuz Obama done set us free!

Well, I never,

GtG

43 posted on 09/23/2013 5:28:42 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Robert357
If asian kids do better than white kids its...because they CHEAT...
44 posted on 09/23/2013 5:31:10 PM PDT by bigheadfred (INFIDEL)
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Notice the disconnect when they said that minorities generally do less well because they are generally poor...then a few sentences later they said that white poor kids out tested rich black kids by a wide margin?

Also, why do they never talk about asians when they talk about minorities? Aren’t asians even more minority than the minorities?


45 posted on 09/23/2013 5:35:14 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Then how do you explain people like Condi Rice (I don’t agree with her on a lot of things but she is very smart) and Dr. Ben Carson?

Excuse me, but did you take math?

The fact that the AVERAGE black student is, more or less, one standard deviation behind the AVERAGE white student does not rule out smart blacks or stupid whites.


46 posted on 09/23/2013 5:36:39 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Why can’t all black students excel?

Why can't all white students excel? Because they are not all excellent. Intelligence is normally distributed in the population and all the huffing and puffing in the world will not change that.

You can take a rich white child, give her all the advantages money can buy, and still end up with a woman dumb as a fencepost. See Caroline Kennedy.

47 posted on 09/23/2013 5:40:36 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Pearls Before Swine

right on the cuckoo bird strategy...just might be what is going on


48 posted on 09/23/2013 5:41:42 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Grams A
Once a child starts school, how many parents sit down with their child every night and go over their homework, meet the teacher and observe in the classroom, hold the school accountable for the quality of instruction and instructors?

Ding! Ding! Ding!

We have a winner.

The article never mentioned parental involvement.

Hmmmmmm I wonder why.

49 posted on 09/23/2013 5:43:10 PM PDT by Taylor42 (No more Bush!)
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To: Altura Ct.

It’s CULTURE!!


50 posted on 09/23/2013 5:49:01 PM PDT by Antoninus II
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Biology is destiny.

Look at the study habits of Jews, Asians, Whites, and Blacks and you will find a better correlation of intellectual achievement.

51 posted on 09/23/2013 5:52:12 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

I would really like to see the results of a study where kids of different races were set for equal amounts of study time and then tested.


52 posted on 09/23/2013 5:57:01 PM PDT by bigheadfred (INFIDEL)
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To: Altura Ct.

Teaching begins at home, even if it is only a few minutes each night.

My granddaughter is in the third grade and reads at a 6-7th grade level, or higher, and speaks like an adult about politics, science, dinosaurs (she can name 30 of them), and I taught her about “blimps” last night (using a 1954 trading card collection/book to show her what they look like and what their stats were).

Right now she is reading Si Robertson’s book, “Si-Chology 101” and is loving it (as well as the show. Spongbob has had his day. Now it’s “Duck Dynasty”, Miss Kay, Si, Phil and the boys).

Pre-schools are good but education begins at home, the earlier the better.


53 posted on 09/23/2013 5:57:19 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: ilovesarah2012

Bell Curve. Rice and Carson are top 1%. The article is discussing group performance.


54 posted on 09/23/2013 6:00:44 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Altura Ct.

Reality:

noun

1. The world or the state of things as they actually exist, as opposed to an idealistic or notional idea of them.

synonyms: the real world, real life, actuality.

antonyms: fantasy

Use “Reality” in a sentence:

“Sometimes reality got in the way.”

“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn’t go away.”


55 posted on 09/23/2013 6:16:04 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Biology is destiny.

You are absolutely correct. But so many just don't want to face reality. Too painful, I guess.

56 posted on 09/23/2013 6:17:14 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: Jim Noble

I am saying many blacks can excel given the right circumstances. And my math was called math.


57 posted on 09/23/2013 6:20:40 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Altura Ct.
Year after year after year, liberals keep dredging up excuses for black underperformance that were demolished in The Bell Curve.

Anyone interested in the subject should just do what dishonest liberals refuse to do: read the damn book.

58 posted on 09/23/2013 6:30:32 PM PDT by TChad
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To: Altura Ct.

Gee, but all of this is so at odds with what I observe in life on a daily basis. Yes, that’s sarcasm.


59 posted on 09/23/2013 6:54:27 PM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: Altura Ct.

Partly the answer to be more educated is hard work.
They don’t say that, or that most adults don’t know enough to push their kids.


60 posted on 09/23/2013 7:07:46 PM PDT by ully2
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