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Paul: We probably can't get rid of ‘Obamacare’
Associated Press ^ | Sep. 21, 2013 5:15 PM EDT | Thomas Beaumont

Posted on 09/21/2013 2:28:46 PM PDT by Olog-hai

Republican Sen. Rand Paul says President Barack Obama’s health care law probably can't be defeated or gotten rid of.

And he’s suggesting there is little he and other congressional Republicans can do to stop the law from taking effect. …

(Excerpt) Read more at bigstory.ap.org ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Kentucky; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: 113th; bhohealthcare; gopestablishment; kentucky; michigan; obamacare; randnesty; randpaul; randpaultruthfile; rino; ronpaultruthfile
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To: dowcaet

Killing innocent babies is inherently unprincipled. Fiscal soundness is meaningless in a culture where the most basic individual right, the right to live, is disregarded for millions of victims. You put the cart before the horse. You want people who are monsters toward defenseless children to respect your right to property and the pursuit of happiness. Why should they honor your property rights when it is so easy for them to ignore the most basic rights of countless innocent children? Your view fosters the very illness about which you complain. Stand for the life rights of all your fellow citizens, or surrender the logical basis for your own claim of property rights. There is no middle ground, there is no such thing as a pro-murder conservative.


141 posted on 09/21/2013 5:41:55 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: mylife

Make the Senate offices the 0bamacare complaint dept.


142 posted on 09/21/2013 5:47:43 PM PDT by Paladin2 (h)
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To: bboop

Yes, they work for us, and they are paid by us, no matter how well or evilly they work. There’s no incentive to take stands, when rolling over pays as well.

Continue to pay your taxes.


143 posted on 09/21/2013 5:54:10 PM PDT by HomeAtLast ( Get involved. Because you ARE involved.)
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To: Olog-hai

Sen. Paul, you morons in congress can get rid of it or we the people will rise up and cleanse the whole lot of you bottom feeding scumbags out of congress.


144 posted on 09/21/2013 5:56:36 PM PDT by stockpirate (Build a gallows outside the Capital and they will come...)
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To: nikos1121

Bull shit and just go away you gutless POS. It is a law, an unconstititutional law, one that was introduced and passed by the wrong house of congress and any law is not burned into the Constitution. Any law can be made to go away and those who might be hurt by making the illegal law go away...too freakin bad; go bitch to the National Socialist Democrat Party who lied to you.

We passed laws and eventually amendments that made slavery, which had the backing under the law, go away. Many slave holders were financially hurt; too f’n bad then and if obamination goes away and some have to regroup, again, too f’n bad.

Besides, you nitwits are only gettin ACCESS to insurance, not access to any real guaranteed care.

FUBO, FAD, down with the democrat party


145 posted on 09/21/2013 6:03:53 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: stockpirate

I’m behind that, sweep away all of them, both parties. Claiming to be conservative does not make it so or you safe.


146 posted on 09/21/2013 6:05:32 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Jim Robinson
"The senate has no say in the matter. If they amend the bill and send it back to the house, then the house rejects it. Then begins passing a series of individual “clean” bills to fund each and every essential department one by one. If Reid amends them, reject them again. They can play this game right up to election day. The people will not be fooled by Obama/Reid.

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Good strategy...let's start leaning on all of them NOW!

The main tea party - I'm thinking "Patriot..." or "....Patriots"

They have stuff on how to write letters, contact Congress, etc.

I bookmarked it so will try to get the name right.

147 posted on 09/21/2013 6:14:21 PM PDT by hummingbird (Don't be afraid of the big words.)
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To: Olog-hai

FIRE THE STUPID DUDE, HE IS NO CONSERVATIVE, ANOTHER RUBIO TRATIOR.


148 posted on 09/21/2013 6:29:15 PM PDT by GailA (THOSE WHO DON'T KEEP PROMISES TO THE MILITARY, WON'T KEEP THEM TO U!)
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To: Olog-hai

He’s looking at 2016. If Cruz goes down in flames over defunding, Rand looks like the conservative who is not too far out there. I think he’s miscalculating, but I’m guessing that’s his thinking.


149 posted on 09/21/2013 6:36:55 PM PDT by Defiant (A rainbow curtain has descended upon the west, from Munich to San Francisco.)
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To: Defiant

If you’re right, that means he’s putting his selfish political ambitions above principle. Which includes trying to step on Cruz to make himself look good.

From every angle it’s repulsively self serving and cowardly.


150 posted on 09/21/2013 6:41:36 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Olog-hai

Makes you wonder what the NSA dug up on Paul.


151 posted on 09/21/2013 6:42:11 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: re_nortex
"And I think what a tragedy it would it would have been if he [Obama] had gone to prison. What a tragedy it would have been that America wouldn't have gotten to see Barack Obama as a leader."

- Rand Paul

I've been getting curiouser and curiouser signals off of Rand Paul, but that's the final straw for me. Something is very wrong with him. Whatever it is, it's gotta be psychologically toxic, for him to make a statement like that.

152 posted on 09/21/2013 7:42:23 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Olog-hai

Believe nothing the “Obamabot” AP (Associated Press) says or prints. Instead of wasting time and energy rambling, carping and ranting about who is going to do what......you fools are falling right into an Obamabot laid trap!!! Time to shut the pie hole....get on the internet, urge your friends and kindred spirits to do the same....and Sign/Endorse the Senators, Mike Lee and Ted Cruz, Defund Obamacare Petition, right now, tonight, immediately, TODAY!!!

(WWW.DONTFUNDOBAMACARE.COM) I’ll be watching those numbers, 24/7!!! Join the 1,600,000 folks that have already endorsed the Lee/Cruz petition!!! Just imagine folks if we dropped 3,000,000 to 4,000,000, or more, signed, legitimate, petitions to defund Obamacare right in Harry Reid’s lap, by next Wednesday or Thursday. Well....what are you all waiting for??? Do it, TODAY!!! MAKE POTUS OBAMA A LAME DUCK POTUS.....NOW!!!!


153 posted on 09/21/2013 7:50:12 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: Logical me
America is finished!

"I'm Barack Obama, and I approve this message!"

154 posted on 09/21/2013 7:50:57 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: little jeremiah; Las Vegas Ron; tumblindice
Hard (and frustrating) to keep the libertopians caged... Thought this was still a Conservative site... they seem to be taking over :/







155 posted on 09/21/2013 7:58:53 PM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: jsanders2001

BTTT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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If Senator Rand Paul really belongs to the “Always surrender before you fight” RINO School of thought, then his weak support and vote against Abolishing Obamacare this coming week will end his future in the New Republican Party, (NRP).


156 posted on 09/21/2013 8:06:29 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Jim Robinson

That’s exactly the way I understand it.

There’s several thread titles ragging on Rand Paul that blame him for saying nothing different from what our guy Cruz has said, or Lee, on this CR deal. The three of them together have been leaning hard on both the Left and the GOPE. That squealing we hear is music to my ears.

My complaint was meant to address the erroneous interpretations popping up that Rand Paul is betraying the cause in progress, for defunding.
These three guys; Lee, Cruz and Paul, will part company soon enough if they compete for the nomination, but right now they’re tight, and are separately and together, a force to be reckoned with.

thx, Mr. R.


157 posted on 09/21/2013 8:29:57 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Fluff article with rabble-rousing headline... no real substance. AP's mission is merely to advance public perception of inner conflict within the roster of the "whackobird Republicans".

I don't buy it... and am not going to be a part of some big burn Rand Paul in effigy thing. The threat is 0bama, the Left, and these country club GOP e traitors.

158 posted on 09/21/2013 8:56:14 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: WilliamIII
When the Democrats have a Senate majority, how do you get rid of Obamacare? Isn’t Rand Paul just stating the obvious?

Shhhh - some FRs need to have a reason to trash our best hopes and reality has nothing to do with it.

159 posted on 09/22/2013 3:23:01 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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