Sorry, it was not serious, just trying to use your word "grace" when what I really meant was "patience" and "forbearance".
But it seems that no amount of patience or grace can raise the conversation with YHAOS above its current level.
That's too bad.
Past time to give it up...
Well, Bro, God was serious about infinite grace (at least enough grace to cover what would otherwise be an infinitely long doom in hell).
I suggest you be, too, if you think it is fitting to talk in such terms. Don’t diss the Lord.
Also, don’t get caught up in petty things. The bible condemns “quarrels about words.” Fruitful discourse occurs at a far higher level than the quibble. FAR higher. Even if those you disagree with quibble... don’t get dragged down to their level. You answer to God. You don’t answer to Satan!