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To: GarySpFc
GarySpFc: "“The Son of God.”
This name is used of Christ forty times."

Exactly, and nobody on this thread has denied what the New Testament says directly about Jesus.
But the NT never directly says, "Jesus is God Himself", and that is the current point of debate.

Some of our posters agree that if you don't accept that, then you are a "God Damned Heretic".
I am here to request those "GDHs" be given more understanding & respect.

2,549 posted on 12/29/2013 10:03:32 PM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: BroJoeK

You don’t. Know what you are discussing. At this time I have to deal with events in Volgograd, Russia. My wife is from there.


2,551 posted on 12/29/2013 10:09:36 PM PST by GarySpFc (We are saved by the precious blood of the God-man.)
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To: BroJoeK

Accepting that Christ can deliver on God promises does matter to one’s fruit on earth, though. It matters big time. The more credit you give to God, the more He will follow through. And at least one reason is that you will never ask anything of God if you aren’t convinced He can deliver it to you.

One could be heretic in some ways, without being unsaved.


2,552 posted on 12/29/2013 10:09:44 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: BroJoeK
But the NT never directly says, "Jesus is God Himself", and that is the current point of debate.

You're simply pettifogging the issue.

The claims of Christ are many and varied. He said that He existed before Abraham (John 8:58), and that He was equal with the Father (John 5:17, 18). Jesus claimed the ability to forgive sins (Mark 2:5–7), which the Bible teaches was something that God alone could do (Isaiah 43:25).

The New Testament equated Jesus as the creator of the universe (John 1:3), and that He is the one who holds everything together (Colossians 1:17). The apostle Paul says that God was manifest in the flesh (I Timothy 3:16, KJV), and John the evangelist says that “the Word was God” (John 1:1). The united testimony of Jesus and the writers of the New Testament is that He was more than mere man; He was God.

2,584 posted on 12/30/2013 11:33:20 AM PST by GarySpFc (We are saved by the precious blood of the God-man.)
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