No backtracking, but if you wish to quote words from me which actually say what you’ve claimed, then I’ll be happy to correct them for you.
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So, by standards of most ancient history, the crucifixion and even resurrection of Jesus are rather well attested.
This makes them historical “facts”.
For you to say the resurrection is rather well attested and then claim that Jesus didn’t claim to be equal with God is backtracking. The resurrection was a miracle. Jesus’s claim is simple history. The resurrection Proved to all nearby that Jesus was Who HE said He Was, He was GOD. The simple historical claim before the sanhedrin was that He was equal with God.
Resurrection: Miracle. Harder to establish pure historicity of it. But good luck trying to explain it away.
Claim of Deity: Non Miracle. Even His enemies acknowledged the claim and had Him put to death because of it. Historically a proven fact.
For you to say the Resurrection is “well attested” but the claim to deity is “ is not indisputably supported by any text” is huge backtracking. It also betrays an ignorance of history.
Sorry FRiend, but that's just nonsense.
Speaks of a tired mind, time to hit the sack...
Sure, "claim of deity", i.e., "Son of God" = "blasphemy", a capital crime to the Jewish Sanhedrin.
Claims of equality with God are never stated explicitly in the New Testament, and whenever hinted at are debatable, and have long been debated, by scholars with opposing views.
But regardless of what scholars debate, at least 95% of Christians accept your claim, Kevmo, of Christ's "equality" with God.
That is religious belief with which I have no problems.
Kemo: "The resurrection Proved to all nearby that Jesus was Who HE said He Was, He was GOD.
The simple historical claim before the sanhedrin was that He was equal with God."
Resurrection would certainly evidence some form of divinity.
But no New Testament writer says explicitly, "Jesus is God".
That is a matter of theological interpretation, not of history.
Kemo: "For you to say the Resurrection is “well attested” but the claim to deity is “ is not indisputably supported by any text” is huge backtracking.
It also betrays an ignorance of history."
Sorry, FRiend, but any ignorance here is yours, since you've utterly refused to acknowledge what I really posted.
Biblical accounts of Christ's "divinity" are not in dispute -- according to them, Jesus certainly did claim to be Son of God, Son of Man, Messiah & other divine titles.
The historical dispute -- leading to millenniums of violent conflict -- has been over theological assertions, reflected in creeds, that Jesus claimed to be "equal to God" or even that "Jesus is God".
These creeds are not supported directly by New Testament texts, regardless of how much blood was shed to impose them.
In the little church I attend, we recite a version of the Apostle's Creed, which originated as early as 180 AD and is not explicit on this subject.