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U.S. military officers have deep doubts about impact, wisdom of a U.S. strike on Syria (Bush blamed)
Washington Post ^ | 8-29-2013 | Ernesto LondoƱo,

Posted on 08/29/2013 10:13:46 PM PDT by JohnHuang2

The Obama administration’s plan to launch a military strike against Syria is being received with serious reservations by many in the U.S. military, which is coping with the scars of two lengthy wars and a rapidly contracting budget, according to current and former officers.

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Obama "Coalition" collapses; Bush blamed

Wow! Obama sure knows how to use the element of surprise, doesn't he? Days and days of leaks, from 'well-placed sources,' 'not authorized to speak,' giving out details about the likely targets and approximate timing of when Obama will launch his war to keep America's shores safe from the mighty Syrian army.

Actually, the whole excuse Obama and his mouthpieces are using to start another war is that many people were killed by an alleged chemical attack near Damascus last week and not one of them was an American. Obama sees a red line there. We must rush to war!

Had an American ambassador and three other brave Americans been killed in Syria, Obama and his Secretary of State would be cutting Syrian TV ads apologizing for the obscure YouTube video which mysteriously caused the whole thing. That Saddam Hussein attempted to assassinate a former Republican President of the United States may have been the real reason liberals so hysterically opposed military action against Iraq. Libbies see no red lines in either case.

After the alleged chemical attack in Syria, liberals and McCainiac "Republicans" claim Obama doesn't have the "luxury" of not bombing Syria, which, if memory serves, had not attacked us on 9/11, and is not a threat against the U.S. (which is the principle reason liberals want to start the bombing already). Yet the media continue to falsely label any military action against Syria as "retaliatory". If Syria had not attacked us, how is bombing Syria "retaliatory"?

And now the AP reports that "multiple U.S. officials" indicate "the evidence against Assad is 'not a slam dunk,' and questions remain regarding who actually controls some of Syria's chemical weapons stores and whether Assad himself ordered the attack."

Buttressing this compelling case for interfering in another country's bloody civil war, U.S. intel guys told the AP they don't know the chemical weapons' exact locations, don't know if Assad already moved the alleged weapons while Obama kept running his mouth off, don't know if Assad even ordered the attack, and don't know if cruise missile strikes based on sketchy 'evidence' may end up mistakenly causing a lethal chemical attack because they've lost track of who controls the chemical weapons supplies given the constantly shifting front lines. All this lack of evidence prompted John Kerry to declare the evidence to be "undeniable". He vowed that Obama would take unspecified action soon. He said what is happening is a "moral obscenity" that "should shock the conscience of the world," though it was hard to tell whether he was talking about Assad or Miley Cyrus.

In the face of overwhelmingly missing evidence, Obama told PBS reporters "we have concluded that the Syrian government in fact carried this out." Then the decisive leader qualified that by using the word "if." He said he wanted to send a clear message in a "very limited way." He claimed his bombs won't cause regime change. Just a "shot across the bow," to make America safe "over the long term." He also says he doesn't want the lovely 'rebel' lads - killers allied with al-Qaeda -- taking over either. He also says Assad must go. But Minister of Misinformation Jay Carney recently ruled out "regime change." Obama says he's scared that Syrian chemical weapons could be "directed at us" if they fell into terrorists' hands, implying they're in safe hands, meaning Assad's. But he says Assad must leave. Chuck Hagel says "if any action would be taken against Syria, it would be an international collaboration." But Obama says he might go it alone with unauthorized force. Chuck Hagel adds that America is ready to start bombing immediately. Obama says he hasn't made up his mind. To compensate for all these mixed messages and because of the idiotic red line he drew a year ago, Obama wants to start bombing Syria.

Against this backdrop, the only thing stunning and shocking about the U.K. Parliament's rejecting the use of force is that the American media seem stunned and shocked. Likely Syrian targets and strike duration leaked all over the place, all week. Sketchy to non-existent "evidence." Intelligence apparatus's credibility in the crapper. No defined mission. Don't want regime change. Want Assad to go. Want regime change. Want Assad to stay. Worst of all, having to fight alongside the French.

In Syria, America's enemies are trying to kill each other off and Obama decides he wants to crash the party. His media camp followers keep whining hysterically that we've gotta interfere in Syria's civil war to bail out "America's credibility", when it's really all about Obama's credibility, which was always non-existent in any event.

Obama famously promised the Russians that he'd have lots of "flexibility" during his second term. But, from the looks of it, the flexibility has gone the other way. Flexing their newfound flexibility, the Brits gave Obama the middle-finger salute yesterday. The Russians are flexibly running circles around Mr. Smart Diplomacy pants at the U.N. He's even lost the newly flexible French. Can't lead the Brits. Can't lead the French. Can't even get his Samantha Powers to attend U.N. meetings -- too busy flexibly presiding over the No. 1 global hotspot, Ireland. Obama soon will learn that even cruise missiles can't restore what you never possessed in the first place -- credibility. Three and a half more years of this global laughingstock to go.

Anyway, that's...
My Two Cents...
"JohnHuang2"



TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cowboyobama; cowboypresident; ffrr; obamasyriaattack; sendintheclowns
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1 posted on 08/29/2013 10:13:46 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: Forgiven_Sinner; xm177e2; mercy; Wait4Truth; hole_n_one; GretchenEE; Clinton's a rapist; buffyt; ...

Friday-morning ping! Have a great weekend, y’all!


2 posted on 08/29/2013 10:15:22 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2

I have deep concerns that with all Obama has on his plate, he decided to go after Americans second amendment rights today and installed a new BATF crony.

Obie would ship arms to rebels in Syria, but has denied them to the American people.

Eaffa Syria.


3 posted on 08/29/2013 10:20:57 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: JohnHuang2
Howdy John, long time no see!

McCainiac "Republicans" claim Obama doesn't have the "luxury" of not bombing Syria, which, if memory serves, had not attacked us on 9/11, and is not a threat against the U.S.

Syria was our ally during the first Gulf War. Not word of mouth, either, troops in the field. People forget that.

It would take a President as stupid as 0bama not to learn from history. If we bomb one set of enemies so that another set may prevail, the victors are still our enemies. You don't win this game, but you can keep from losing if you refuse to play.

4 posted on 08/29/2013 10:23:26 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: JohnHuang2

Hey, Obambi. The Sixties called.
They want their Bay of Pigs back.


5 posted on 08/29/2013 10:39:08 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Arguing with a marxist is like playing Chess with a Pigeon.)
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6 posted on 08/29/2013 10:47:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: rfp1234

Just an opportunity for an ‘accident’ that erupts into conflagration.


7 posted on 08/29/2013 10:47:29 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices.")
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To: JohnHuang2

army having a hard time being run by president dumbass. if a bunch have to die it ain’t obama dying.


8 posted on 08/29/2013 10:49:17 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: JohnHuang2

He’s effed this up so badly... It’s pathetic.


9 posted on 08/29/2013 10:55:59 PM PDT by SMCC1
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To: JohnHuang2

A+


10 posted on 08/29/2013 11:02:30 PM PDT by Excellence (All your database are belong to us.)
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To: JohnHuang2

Perfect!


11 posted on 08/29/2013 11:10:27 PM PDT by chulaivn66 (Semper Fidelis)
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To: JohnHuang2

Obama shoots his ignorant mouth off about “a red line” and sets up hundreds of women and children to be chemical attacked by the Terrorists so it can be pinned on Assad.

Now, War Criminal Obama is going to illegally bomb the wrong people.

What A Disgrace!!!


12 posted on 08/29/2013 11:22:07 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: JohnHuang2
Nails it.

If it weren't such serious shiite it would be funny.

Actually, it is funny in one of those pre-commie Russian novels.

;-)

13 posted on 08/29/2013 11:37:43 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: JohnHuang2

JH2, one of FR’s greatest wits and observers!


14 posted on 08/29/2013 11:48:54 PM PDT by karnage
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To: JohnHuang2

Well written. Thanks.


15 posted on 08/30/2013 12:41:18 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: JohnHuang2

So, Obama, who campaigned against McCain and Romney saying that he would always seek coalitions with other nations and not undertake military adventures, now wants to go it alone. When will people wake up and realize that this man is a total charlatan? When will the Nobel Committee demand their peace prize back? Liberals disgust me.

One of the biggest complaints I had against Bush was that when we took military action it was not decisive and the gains did not exceed the losses. Obama has an even worse track record in this regard. First he kills off Gaddafi, who was actually cooperating with us in the region and now has been replaced by a weak government bullied around by Islamist extremists. Then, he helped topple Mubarak, who was a murderous SOB, but he was our SOB. Now, Egypt is in chaos with extremist elements temporarily out of power, but could return to power in the future. The military coup leaders have little love for us as we have proven ourselves to be faithless allies. Now, he wants us to get involved in the Syrian civil war which has little or no economic or military value to us.

The sheer diplomatic incompetence exhibited by this administration is mind-blowing. I really think it is time that we ban graduates from Harvard and Princeton from any public office. I think we need an infusion of common sense in our national leadership, so I would suggest that elect nothing but people who have graduated from State Universities or, better yet, people who only have a high school diploma. I am sure that these sorts of people would do a lot better job than the supposed geniuses that are now in charge.


16 posted on 08/30/2013 1:50:32 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Restoration of the Republic)
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To: FReepers; All
FWIW - * unofficial * Computer Central - just a screen name...

Will FReepers keep posting "Glitch" threads every time that we have an occurrence of the FR display "Glitch"?
If so, I'm suggesting that they include the following Keyword: FFRR

FFRR - For FR display glitch threads [Articles] FR Keyword: ffrr

AND, a better idea might be to just "Bump!" one of the recent "Glitch" threads when we see the display problem. If people see these threads on the forum and are interested in what is going on, then they can just click on the "last" link, and read the latest info.

There are two threads on the "FFRR" list that have good generic titles:

FR glitch returns - (Aug 7); - And the "glitch" is back - (Aug 24).

Note: The "FFRR" keyword is intended for "display glitch" threads. Now you will see that I included three "current affairs" articles, and a couple of FR related threads near the bottom of the list. However, any new entries should be related to the FR display glitch.

17 posted on 08/30/2013 1:57:07 AM PDT by Computer Central
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To: JohnHuang2

That was a great summary, John.


18 posted on 08/30/2013 2:03:00 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: JohnHuang2

Hey Zer0..
Remember the Jimmie Carter regime change in Iran?
How’d that work out for us?


19 posted on 08/30/2013 2:16:21 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: JohnHuang2

One of your best, JH2


20 posted on 08/30/2013 3:31:32 AM PDT by maica (Welcome to post-rational America.)
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