Posted on 07/25/2013 5:09:39 PM PDT by SJackson
Ho Chi Minh was a Communist terrorist. President Truong Tan Sang, whom Obama is trying to win over, is a leading Communist.
“We both reaffirmed the efforts that have been made to deal with war legacy issues. We very much appreciate Vietnam’s continued cooperation as we try to recover our Missing in Action and those that were lost during the course of the war. And I reaffirmed the United States’ commitment to work with Vietnam around some of the environmental and health issues that have continued, decades later, because of the war,” Obama said.
How nice.
“Finally, we agreed that one of the great sources of strength between our two countries is the Vietnamese American population that is here but obviously has continued strong ties to Vietnam,” Obama said.
Much of America’s Vietnamese population came here as refugees. It’s like claiming that the Cuban community bonds us to Castro.
“At the conclusion of the meeting, President Sang shared with me a copy of a letter sent by Ho Chi Minh to Harry Truman. And we discussed the fact that Ho Chi Minh was actually inspired by the U.S. Declaration of Independence and Constitution, and the words of Thomas Jefferson. Ho Chi Minh talks about his interest in cooperation with the United States. And President Sang indicated that even if it’s 67 years later, it’s good that we’re still making progress,” Obama said.
The message to Truman came in 1946. By then Ho Chi Mihn had long been a dedicated Communist and Soviet agent. At the time the letter was sent, Ho Chi Mihn was murdering his political opponents while trying to wheedle Truman into helping him out.
The Vietnamese Declaration of Independence was indeed partly a cheap copy of the American Declaration of Independence in that it borrowed the format to issue a list of grievances against the French.
And the resemblance ends there. There was no commitment to internal freedom. Its sole real purpose was to kick out the French.
But good news. Obama will go to Vietnam according to President Sang.
“Last but not least, I also, on behalf of our government and our state, to extend to President Obama our invitation to visit Vietnam. And President Obama has accepted our invitation and will try his best to pay a visit to Vietnam during his term.”
Maybe he can chant the left’s favorite, “Ho Ho Ho Chi Minh is going to win” chant while he’s there.
In 1992 I gave an assignment to my 7th grade ESL kids. They were to draw the flag of the country they came from and on the reverse side of a 3/5 index card tell me why their family came to America. A Vietnamese girl, born four or five years after Saigon’s fall handed in an index card with the red and gold flag of the Republic of Vietnam. On the reverse side? One word, FREEDOM. I wish I still had it to send to Obama
Drill Sergeant double timing sings: “Ho Chi Minh was a sunuvabitch!”
Platoon: “Blue Balls, Crabs and The Seven Year Itch”.
FUBO.
58,000 times.
What else can you say, except to say it a thousand times?
Are you so naive to think that a dedicated Soviet agent who had worked for the Comintern for the past 20+ years was just going to allow the US to OWN Vietnam?
LOL, So True.
Well, you have to admit Ho did come to the US TWICE with hat in hand.
And TWICE we had an opportunity to at least mitigate what was about to be.
OTOH, the word “IF” does NOT exit in history.
I know you know what I mean.
We had most of the world in our pocket at the time. I doubt support of the Viet Minh rather than France would have had any political reprecussions, Vietnam under Ho would have been a communist country. Personally, were there a benefit to us, I wouldn’t have cared much about offending the French. As to the Japanese surrender, there would have been no role there unless you’re suggesting the Viet Minh sign in place of France, which wouldn’t have made much sense. There were only 9 or 10 allied signatories. The French, of course, being on both sides of the conflict.
Agree to disagree. The Viet Minh were prepared to accept US help. They simply wanted the French OUT.
American rubber companies pleaded with Foster Dollars to let the Viet Minh accept the Japanese surrender. They wanted those plantations in the worst way.
Foster Dollars was an idiot.
Do You Know? After the US refused to let the Viet Minh accept Japanese surrender, the French (and British) RE-ARMED captured Japanese troops and sent them into battle against a now very pi$$ed off commie bunch, AKA, Viet Minh?
(Japanese troops knowing they were going to face war crimes trials, fought for the French like demons. Many were pardoned.)
The whole battlefield after WWII was chaotic. And American stupidity MIGHT have mitigated a lot of that, had any one paid attention to HO.
Yes, he was a commie. But no, he hated China and distrusted Stalin.
All I’m saying is, we had a CHANCE, and we blew it. We’ll never know now. But hey, that’s how history rolls.
Obama is an idiot.
Just goes to show how thoroughly the Left has gained control over the history books.
yep.
Hey, Hey, Ho, Ho
Obama’s Gotta Go
Has he made it to Israel yet?
I understood that he did approach the US first about arms and support for fighting the French colonial forces after WW2 ,,, when we turned him down due to treaties he approached the USSR.
Thanks SJackson.
Bette Midler: GOP Tried to Prevent U.S. from Winning WWII
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Posted on 07/25/2013 5:36:38 PM PDT by drewh
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3047381/posts
yeah right... And so was Pol Pot!!!
“Like Castro, he would have been happy to have our support. For awhile. Reminds me of a few Arab states, but I’ll leave that for another thread.”
Well put.
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That’s why I love this site; besides being on the same page for 90% of the issues, I learn a lot (even from people I don’t agree with).
My reference was to 1919; anything you post about subsequent events has no bearing on the discussion. I am no fan of Ho Chi Minh; he can rot in Hell with Stalin, Mao, and co.
“I understood that he did approach the US first about arms and support for fighting the French colonial forces after WW2”
He shouldn’t have been surprised that we wouldn’t go along with that, after pretending the French were allied with us in WWII. After WWI he really expected a nonviolent dissolution of Europe’s empires to give independence to Vietnam.
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