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Why Have Gun Sales Dropped So Much?
The Atlantic Wire ^ | July 25, 2013 | Philip Bump

Posted on 07/25/2013 4:03:37 PM PDT by lbryce

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To: lbryce
Yeah, they've "dropped" to 1.3 million a month. That's as high or higher than the 2006, 2007, and 2008 peaks.

To put that in perspective, two months of that "valley" and we'd have a shiny new gun for every member of the active duty Chinese Red Army. Add three months to that and we'd pick up their reservists and paramilitaries, too.

Which reminds me, I haven't bought a new gun in months...

21 posted on 07/25/2013 4:14:22 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: lbryce

Because Cracka’s only got two hands.


22 posted on 07/25/2013 4:15:52 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I’ve researched it.

It’ is about $5,000,000 in startup costs to start ONE LINE of ammo. That is just to produce the cartridges. You still have cost for raw materials (primers, powder, brass), labor costs as well as marketing/branding, shipping, licensing, lawyers, and most importantly Insurance costs.

This is assuming that you are going to produce in enough volume to compete at a national level.


23 posted on 07/25/2013 4:17:26 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol

I guess that would be a start-from-scratch. But for an existing ammo business to add factories that would be cheaper? And anyhow are there any patriotic $10,000,000’aires around who wouldn’t mind sinking half their fortunes?


24 posted on 07/25/2013 4:18:52 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: lbryce

If I had to guess, it would be that anyone who wants to own a gun legally already has one. The rest are being sold on the streets from the Fast and Furious cache and are illegal.


25 posted on 07/25/2013 4:20:16 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: taxcontrol

And who’d worry about competing if you could sell all you made locally at a decent price... hey, let the mail orders come in. Get your stuff quality vouched by recognized gun clubs and hey, now you got HiTechRedNeck rounds... well, if I had the $10 million I’d entertain the idea.


26 posted on 07/25/2013 4:20:38 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: lbryce

It appears the panic buying has finally stopped or at least slowed.

I have noticed that ARs are now available at several sources and at reasonable prices.

Ammo continues to be hard to find.


27 posted on 07/25/2013 4:22:06 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Have you heard of crowd sourcing? Lots of little guys pre-buying stuff so that the idea can get off the ground. I’ve seen cool concepts raise $500,000+ via crowd sourcing.

It might be an interesting idea to attempt to crowd source an ammo company. Do you think we could get enough people to pre-buy 5 bricks of .22 to raise 5 or 6 million? Maybe 9mm or .40


28 posted on 07/25/2013 4:24:04 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol

Very interesting concept. More work than I have the free time to pursue, but if I had enough dough to live on without the day job that could be tempting.


29 posted on 07/25/2013 4:25:20 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: lbryce
Why Have Gun Sales Dropped So Much?

Obama finally has the Mexican druggies and Al Qaeda fully armed up.

30 posted on 07/25/2013 4:25:28 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Obamanomics: Coming soon to a breadline near you!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I read some time ago that a government contracted ammo line was being replaced in MO. Wondered at the time if the old equipment could be purchased cheaply.


31 posted on 07/25/2013 4:25:45 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Once a Republic, then a State in the US, but it is Still Texas where I live.)
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To: lbryce
The posted chart indicates that background checks are decreasing relative to preceding months. And that may well be true.

Myself...I'm buying roughly the same number of firearms as before. I'm just undergoing fewer background checks as a part of the process. I tend to favor less bureaucracy rather than more, that's all. ;-)
32 posted on 07/25/2013 4:26:39 PM PDT by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: lbryce

LOL..Because our wives an girlfriends are geting tired of looking at us in our closet safes surrounded by a 150 gun display and saying “Honey, I like shooting too and a few of those are mine, but, we each only have two hands....and rent/mortgage”.


33 posted on 07/25/2013 4:28:34 PM PDT by NCDave (AKA, "That idiot over there")
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To: lbryce

To me the graph just shows the seasonality of firearms sales. Apparently fewer firearms are purchased in the summer, probably because people are busy with other pursuits, it isn’t hunting season yet, and Christmas shopping hasn’t started yet. And of course the rate of firearms purchases drops off some when the liberal Democrats aren’t as busy trying to subvert the Bill of Rights.


34 posted on 07/25/2013 4:28:41 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I’m in the same boat. I have a normal day job, two teens and one college kid at home. Starting up a magazine (bullets not print) business as well. I find myself shaking my own hand as I walk in/out my front door.


35 posted on 07/25/2013 4:29:16 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol

Hey, more (fire) power to you. I do not have much of a managerial bent and that’s what it takes in spades to get a business going that has some hope of not flopping.


36 posted on 07/25/2013 4:30:58 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: BipolarBob
Exactly. We’ve bought all of the guns we need for now. We’re out of money and need ammo.

I'm in that camp.

37 posted on 07/25/2013 4:32:06 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: qaz123
Or maybe, the folks that want/wanted them, have already bought them

That was my first thought as well. AKA: Saturation.

38 posted on 07/25/2013 4:33:59 PM PDT by stormhill (Guns Save Lives!)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

I saw that. Strange.


39 posted on 07/25/2013 4:34:16 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: taxcontrol
It might be an interesting idea to attempt to crowd source an ammo company

That strategy might work better either importing ammunition or buying in bulk from a US vendor interested in a large order. Pooling resources to make a single volume purchase can open up new supply channels. No doubt their are ammunition factories outside of the USA that have not entered our market. There may be complex regulations involved in importing that make small volume sales unprofitable.

40 posted on 07/25/2013 4:34:33 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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