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Feds tell Web firms to turn over user account passwords
Cnet ^ | 25 July, 2013 | Declan McCullagh

Posted on 07/25/2013 3:49:38 PM PDT by Errant

The U.S. government has demanded that major Internet companies divulge users' stored passwords, according to two industry sources familiar with these orders, which represent an escalation in surveillance techniques that has not previously been disclosed.

If the government is able to determine a person's password, which is typically stored in encrypted form, the credential could be used to log in to an account to peruse confidential correspondence or even impersonate the user. Obtaining it also would aid in deciphering encrypted devices in situations where passwords are reused.

"I've certainly seen them ask for passwords," said one Internet industry source who spoke on condition of anonymity. "We push back."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: benghazi; computers; cyber; fastandfurious; impeachnow; irs; loadurgunsboys; nsa; passwords; security
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To: taxcontrol

The point is Google qualified their statement and with the parsing lessons I received from Bill Clinton via the MSM, I find that suspect.


21 posted on 07/25/2013 4:04:28 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Unindicted Co-conspirators: The Mainstream Media)
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To: Flick Lives

The Feds are forcing them to create a second working password for the accounts...that way even if the user changes their password the Feds still have a working one.

No trick to have two passwords to open a single account....just a line or two of code.


22 posted on 07/25/2013 4:04:30 PM PDT by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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23 posted on 07/25/2013 4:05:33 PM PDT by RedMDer (When immigrants cannot or will not assimilate, its really just an invasion. Throw them out!)
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To: Bobalu
Oh, I wish I could do that.

I should have gone into tech and not psych in college.

psst I think you are correct.

24 posted on 07/25/2013 4:06:21 PM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: Errant

More and more it looks like time to water the tree of liberty.


25 posted on 07/25/2013 4:06:21 PM PDT by MeganC (A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll never need one again.)
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To: null and void

Yep, in a few hours, they could create enough on you to lock you away for several lifetimes. Perhaps disappear you into indefinite detention until you’re forgotten about.


26 posted on 07/25/2013 4:06:42 PM PDT by Errant
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To: null and void

Anyone that doesn’t know that our government is corrupted beyond repair, doesn’t know much.


27 posted on 07/25/2013 4:08:48 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: null and void

It can be cracked - but not reversed. By that I mean that someone can brute force guess at the password and possibly get it right. Given enough resources, it might even be possible to build a database of passwords and their corresponding hashes. I believe IBM holds the patent for that very concept.

It is even possible to intercept the password by a man-in-the-middle attack or by some other social engineering method.

However, there is no mathematical way to take a hash and apply a program to that and end up with the original text. Thus, technically, it can not be reversed.


28 posted on 07/25/2013 4:10:17 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Bobalu

Freebook - For freedom lovin’ folk.


29 posted on 07/25/2013 4:11:13 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Errant
Given the revelations about the NSA and the Government's incursions into our privacy on a daily basis - it is rapidly becoming time for all right-thinking American's who are concerned about their privacy, their freedom of expression, freedom of speech, and freedom from unrestrained search and seizure (which is NOT limited to physical property!) to start planning on removing their Facebook, Google, and Webmail based accounts from the internet.

In short: The Federal Government is using your internet access to spy on you, collect information about you and PROFILE you. Develop your exit plan now - that means deleting accounts, deleting Facebook history, etc.. and learning to use the internet ANONYMOUSLY.

TOR. Accessing the Internet using public WiFi Access on an untraceable device. The capabilities are there, google is your friend.

30 posted on 07/25/2013 4:12:00 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Errant
No Comment... I'd be banned for life if I said what I'm thinking about our so-called "representatives" in "FREAKING" Washington DC who are letting this CRAP happen.

If I said what I was thinking at this very moment (oh hell ... what I'm thinking most of the time!) the least of my worries would be being banned from FR.

31 posted on 07/25/2013 4:12:57 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: taxcontrol
Yeah, and the Japanese didn't think the Purple code could ever be cracked.

How did that work out for them, hmmm?

32 posted on 07/25/2013 4:15:29 PM PDT by null and void (You don't know what "cutting edge" means till you insult Mohammed.)
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To: Army Air Corps

I don’t know how big the net pipes are going into and out of Iceland but that would be an excellent place to host a service.

Russia has big pipes and a trusted name like Kaspersky could open a new service.

At this point I trust Russia before the US with my data...what a twisted world we are living in.


33 posted on 07/25/2013 4:16:15 PM PDT by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: usconservative

:)


34 posted on 07/25/2013 4:16:16 PM PDT by Errant
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To: taxcontrol

You don’t need the keys to the toy box if you can take the back off with a Phillips head screwdriver.


35 posted on 07/25/2013 4:18:01 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Errant

This is another reason the cloud should not be used for personal storage.

It’s your data. Don’t you want to control it?


36 posted on 07/25/2013 4:20:05 PM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: usconservative
The capabilities are there, google is your friend.

GOOGLE???

Seriously? You're going to let GOOGLE know you are trying to figure out how to avoid having the government spy on your every move?

What not just publish all your personal information in the NYT classifieds while you are at it‽

37 posted on 07/25/2013 4:21:46 PM PDT by null and void (You don't know what "cutting edge" means till you insult Mohammed.)
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To: null and void

Well, google (or bing) it from some anonymous account of course...


38 posted on 07/25/2013 4:22:26 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: Errant
The U.S. government has demanded that major Internet companies...

This brings to mind two questions:

1. What part of "the U.S. Government?"

2. Which, specifically, "major Internet companies?"

Vague reporting like that drives me crazy.

39 posted on 07/25/2013 4:23:03 PM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: Bobalu

Think the worst and work backwards. How much do you with financial groups? And if this government want it to pay off the debt it will have access to your account. Black Swan?


40 posted on 07/25/2013 4:23:31 PM PDT by magua
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