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Sorry, the Zimmerman Case Still Has Nothing to Do With 'Stand Your Ground'
Reason ^ | July 14, 2013 | Jacob Sullum

Posted on 07/14/2013 7:51:24 PM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi

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If you're like me, you've now seen countless articles and Facebook posts bemoaning Florida's Stand Your Ground law, and how that allegedly horrible law led to an unjust verdict. There's just one problem -- the Zimmerman case wasn't about Stand Your Ground because Zimmerman's team argued self-defense not Stand Your Ground.

As we all know, most of the people flipping out over the verdict are not keen on facts and may not believe you when you tell them the case had nothing to do with Stand Your Ground. That's why you can just provide them with the link to the above article and save your time and energy.

1 posted on 07/14/2013 7:51:24 PM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Yup. With self-defense, you only need to prove fear of imminent death or fear of grievous bodily harm. QED.


2 posted on 07/14/2013 7:55:22 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
I guess the GZ case proves the old adage..."I'd rather be judged by twelve rather than be carried by six".

But,sadly,my gut tells me that Saint Trayvon's DC "dad" is gonna have the last laugh here.

3 posted on 07/14/2013 7:55:40 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Shirley you jest! You expect a liberal with their closed mind made up on pure magic thinking to actually read an article opposing their mindset? LOL


4 posted on 07/14/2013 7:59:18 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Black churches are giving out Skittles today. Enuf said.


5 posted on 07/14/2013 8:03:07 PM PDT by BushCountry (We Wanted a President That Listens to All Americans - Now We Have One!)
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To: MHGinTN
Baloney......I would have shot the bastard if I had been on the ground being pummeled by a punk!
6 posted on 07/14/2013 8:03:56 PM PDT by joyce11111 (he police minute)
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To: MHGinTN
"I'm not kidding, and don't call me Shirley."
7 posted on 07/14/2013 8:04:25 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

I read on another post here on FR over a week ago that any black person has at least four male relatives with criminal convictions in their past.

Loosening concealed carry weapon requirements and ‘stand your ground’ laws would have a detrimental effect on extended black families, as young men would end up dead.

It appears to me that Progressives are trying to do to the U.S. what Progressives did in England: disarm the law abiding citizenry so others do not get killed.

This is tampering with our sacred right to self-defense.


8 posted on 07/14/2013 8:04:46 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITIZEN: BORN IN THE USA OFCITIZEN PARENTS)
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Nothing is sacred to the liberal mind except slaughtering the alive unborn ... and they get that little ritual in the black communities way too much for black people to still be blind to the democrips’ evil exploitation of them.


9 posted on 07/14/2013 8:07:47 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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From article: "The only context in which "stand your ground" was mentioned during the trial was as part of the prosecution's attempt to undermine Zimmerman's credibility by arguing that he lied when he told Fox News host Sean Hannity that he had not heard of the law until after the shooting."

I do not believe that is correct, because I heard the Judge say it when she was reading the law that was going back with the Jury to deliberate on. She mentioned stand your ground and self defense.

10 posted on 07/14/2013 8:08:18 PM PDT by Spunky
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Shirley you jest! You expect a liberal with their closed mind made up on pure magic thinking to actually read an article opposing their mindset? LOL

Yeah, I know you're right. I don't even try to persuade Liberals anymore. Last night, one of my liberal friends put what he thought was a deep, provocative post about Stand Your Ground and Zimmerman's acquittal. I laughed, briefly thought about bursting his bubble, but decided to let it slide. More people have since commented about how such a bad law could lead to such a bad verdict. They all think that they're the next F. Lee Bailey or Johnnie Cochran, meanwhile they're dissecting a completely irrelevant law. LOL!

11 posted on 07/14/2013 8:09:34 PM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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never had anything to do with "stand your ground" despite what MSNBC hoped.

It's still legal to protect yourself. No requirement to run away first or beg the government for help.

12 posted on 07/14/2013 8:13:55 PM PDT by Washi (PUSH BACK! Encourage your legislators to introduce pro-second amendment legislation.)
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13 posted on 07/14/2013 8:15:22 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Keep your powder dry.)
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‘They’ are like little marionettes dancing on whatever strings the race hustlers in the regime's service point them to. Some Americans are being shaken from their slumber with this blatant effort by the regime and their cadre of obscene media sycophants to incite hatred and chaos. If this incident isn't plain enough for Americans, then nothing is left but to allow the self-identifying violence seekers to out themselves and we the people can deal with them while sweeping the current thuggery out of office if we are allowed to vote in 2014.
14 posted on 07/14/2013 8:16:41 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

From a criminals (black) perspective “stand your ground”
laws and an armed citizenry are occupational hazards that
make their chosen profession unreasonably hazardous.
If they could these asshats would get OSHA to declare such
laws and weapons as work hazards and have them restricted
or outlawed.


15 posted on 07/14/2013 8:17:56 PM PDT by nvscanman
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To: SatinDoll

Compare the number of Chicago homicides compared to casualties of operation enduring freedom (Afghanistan).

Chicago OEF
2001 667 12
2002 656 49
2003 601 48
2004 453 52
2005 451 99
2006 471 98
2007 448 117
2008 513 155
2009 459 317
2010 436 499
2011 435 418
2012 503 310
2013 195 75

If the Sharpton’s and Shabazz’s were concerned about black homicide, why not look at the problems in Chicago? When it’s statistically more dangerous to walk the streets of Chicago than to serve in a combat zone, I think it might be a problem. Instead they latch on to a death that’s not black on black and fan the flames. The Zimmerman trial is all about creating racial tensions from our street agitator in Chief. It’s all he knows how to do. It’s theater designed to fill the news with a story that diverts attention from the real problems, like employment, healthcare, etc. It is truly disgusting and I am willing to bet that Holder will pursue a civil right case for the express purpose of keeping this in the news. They are desperate and have no moral grounding.


16 posted on 07/14/2013 8:18:31 PM PDT by Sodbuster
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To: Gay State Conservative

>> my gut tells me that Saint Trayvon’s DC “dad” is gonna have the last laugh here.

I know that’s what you desire, but I look forward to this your latest curse on George Zimmerman to be proven spectacularly wrong.

Just as your previous thousand curses on the innocent man were proven totally, utterly ignorant and wrong.


17 posted on 07/14/2013 8:18:43 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Looks like we’re going to be kept busy trying to inform the dumb masses. (Say it fast)


18 posted on 07/14/2013 8:22:05 PM PDT by griswold3 (Hillary Clinton is Diana Moon Glampers)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
NPR likewise keeps insisting that the Zimmerman case somehow casts doubt on the wisdom or fairness of "stand your ground" laws.

It's bad enough to tell lies; it's even worse to tell them with the tax payers' dollars.

19 posted on 07/14/2013 8:23:38 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: Sodbuster

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20 posted on 07/14/2013 8:25:59 PM PDT by southland ( I have faith in the creator)
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