Posted on 07/13/2013 6:07:06 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
I pray for a fair and just verdict. My support and thoughts go out to the Zimmerman family and the defense team as we wait.
Links to Live Streams (Thanks Carole):
WAT~ http://wildabouttrial.com/trial_videos/watch-the-george-zimmerman-hearing-live/
Local WFTV~ http://www.wftv.com/s/zimmerman-livestream//
Click Orlando~ http://www.clickorlando.com/news/-/1637132/19533480/-/fm5b93z/-/index.html
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“Shelly was told by her school that she could not finish her degree.”
I didn’t know that - that is terrible and makes no sense, but I’ve begun to think nothing in Florida makes any sense. I so hope he is found not guilty and they can go somewhere and begin a life.
>> What was the VOA motion?
Immediately after prosecution rested, O’Mara moved to have the judge issue an immediate Verdict of Acquittal (VOA), on the grounds that the state has no case.
This is kinda sorta routine, however in many criminal cases it’s probably just a formality. Neither side really expects the judge to acquit right then and there.
But in this case, of course, the prosecution really DID NOT do anything like present evidence that established guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.
O’Mara didn’t just go through the motions, he argued with lots of rationaliy and case law. SOME of his case law was cases that actually WERE overturned in appeal because the judge in the original trial erroneously failed to issue a VOA.
Another point: if a mistrial is declared, then of course there is no verdict, hence no appeal based on verdict is possible. However, it seems that you CAN appeal a denied VOA upon a mistrial! That might mean if there’s a mistrial, Z stays out on bond while such an appeal happens. (I suppose gearing up for a 2nd trial could also happen in parallel.)
Anyway, something interesting and hopeful to ponder...
Love the screen name. Just finished watching Sherlock on Masterpiece Mystery and learned about the brother of Sherlock (didn’t know he had one). Love that show — but you gotta be quick to keep up.
“I mean they cant even acquit of 2nd degree? Its insane!! “
Who says the jury hasn’t decided against 2nd Degree? You do realize the jury doesn’t come out and report their decisions on a charge by charge basis....as they decide, and then go back in to deliberate the other charges? Maybe I’m misunderstanding your point on 2nd degree.
Fla Cracker:
Imagine being the only 6ppl on planet that don’t know #trayvon thug/fighting text message
Surf and turf. For supper. Eggs Benedict for breakfast. Seafood salad on a croissant with a side salad for lunch. But it’s the desserts that are keeping them there!
Seems a good spot to post jury instructions for Zimmerman trial again.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/153373601/Zimmerman-Final-Jury-Instructions
Yes. That’s why she didn’t testify
“When Nancy Grace talks, it appears as if she is smelling something bad well, to me looks that way.”
She IS smelling something bad. Her upper lip.
“When Nancy Grace talks, it appears as if she is smelling something bad well, to me looks that way.”
She IS smelling something bad. Her upper lip.
>> Rioter types dont speak that eloquently.
‘sup ahmo kimee a cracka. Would anyone else care to join me?
That second post wasn’t my fault! The kitten just ran across my keyboard at the exact moment after I hit enter for the first one.
I’m not kitti..er..kidding.
Iirc they said her presence would endanger other students. But MOM just said the school told her she couldn’t finish.
They won’t use them for movie rights, they’ll use the traydmarks
“Hey, can’t you even include the post you’re replying to?! For God’s sake!”
I would and have been...but even when I do, and put it in quotes, I still get comments to me about what I was responding TO. I’m about to give up on it...lol.
I’m a preacher, not an attorney. If I were an attorney and been in MOM’s shoes, I would have undoubtedly been more demonstrative, graphic, forceful, illustrative, and depicting than MOM was (even with hands tied behind back). Of course, that’s my nature; therefore I would have been myself.
Here is something to keep in mind:
In most trials the jury is privy to information that is not available to the general public. But given that this trial was in the Sunshine State the public has more information on the facts of this trial than the jury will.
The public knows all the evidence that was withheld from the jury, so they know what the jury does not know.
So this jury is going to deliver a verdict based upon low information and then come out of their isolation chamber and face a public that knows more than they do.
“Just finished watching Sherlock on Masterpiece Mystery”
My son has lived in London over 20 yrs. One time when I was there, I went to the SHERLOCK HOMES PUB. There is a recreation of his office with him and Watson in there and his dog and desk, etc.. I bought a Sherlock Holmes hat there. I have read every book about Sherlock, watched every film made, was a big time fan, so going there was a real kick for me. If you should ever be in London, go there.
Im just hoping that some of them dont start having PMS symptoms when they have differences in opinions, they may have to call in the bailiff to break up a fist fight.
Love the screen name. Just finished watching Sherlock on Masterpiece Mystery and learned about the brother of Sherlock (didnt know he had one). Love that show but you gotta be quick to keep up.
Thanks, but it is really an homage to Heinlein's _The Moon is a Harsh Mistress_, one of the many alias's of Adam Selene, the story's main machine.
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