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State of Florida vs. George Zimmerman Self-defense is not a crime: VERDICT WATCH.
annettekblog.wordpress ^ | July 12, 2013 | annettek

Posted on 07/13/2013 6:07:06 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

I pray for a fair and just verdict. My support and thoughts go out to the Zimmerman family and the defense team as we wait.

Links to Live Streams (Thanks Carole):

WAT~ http://wildabouttrial.com/trial_videos/watch-the-george-zimmerman-hearing-live/

Local WFTV~ http://www.wftv.com/s/zimmerman-livestream//

Click Orlando~ http://www.clickorlando.com/news/-/1637132/19533480/-/fm5b93z/-/index.html

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: blackkk; chickjuryhesscrewed; florida; georgezimmerman; liveverdictwatch; livezimmermanjury; martin; trayvon; trayvonmartin; ursulathev; zimmerman; zot
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To: Toespi

That Fox news legal was on with Hannity last night and wanted manslaughter badly. Mark Furhman said it is self defense and he should be acquitted.


1,541 posted on 07/13/2013 3:18:40 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: viaveritasvita

Just reporting what they said. Don’t know.


1,542 posted on 07/13/2013 3:19:05 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: House Atreides
I heard one of the local (good) Florida attorney talking heads a few minutes ago that there may have been a problem with what was in the final jury instructions document.

Pretty confident that Don West was comfortable with the instructions. Clarification may be needed, but West is a picky lawyer (the pickiest, much to the chagrin of the Judge).

I think what is happening (my Holiday Inn Express receipt is here somewhere) is that the jury has dispensed with the 2nd degree murder charge and just wants to make sure they fully understand manslaughter. When they realize (i.e. get clarification) that self-defense (the same self defense that overcame murder 2) does the same for manslaughter...this trial is over.

That said, I had finished my bottle of good champagne BEFORE the results were announced on election eve 2012. Will remember that event to my dying day.

1,543 posted on 07/13/2013 3:19:06 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (You can't eat Sharia)
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To: patriotspride

If he is found quilty of Manslaugter, after the prosecution put up no evidence of his guilt whatsover, this would be the biggest miscarriage of justice in the last 100 years. It was self-defense. To convict of Manslaughter it would mean that the jurors completely ignored the evidence in the case. Disgusting.


1,544 posted on 07/13/2013 3:19:09 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: novemberslady

What does this mean?


1,545 posted on 07/13/2013 3:19:16 PM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: All

How can these women NOT think this was self defense. I think they are talking and thinking too much. This is simple!


1,546 posted on 07/13/2013 3:19:19 PM PDT by Fawn (In a World of Information, Ignorance is a Choice.)
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To: pollywog

The talking heads also thought that OJ would be convicted because the jury wanted read back of the limo driver’s testimony and we all know what happened


1,547 posted on 07/13/2013 3:19:20 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: spacejunkie2001

Yep. .listening to all 4 locals. .one excellent point is the difference between the standard jury instructions and the ones that have extra case law concerning manslaughter. Yesterday West argued for the extra and Nelson said no.


1,548 posted on 07/13/2013 3:19:43 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: ArmstedFragg

An attorney on Fox News just said that these manslaughter instructions were the worst written she had ever seen. Very confusing with respect to whether or not jury can convict on negligence.


1,549 posted on 07/13/2013 3:20:01 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Involuntary manslaughter can mean a fine and/or probation without any jail time.
1,550 posted on 07/13/2013 3:20:04 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: rainee

>>>>Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS
Jury instructions: Jurors cannot convict on manslaughter in this case if #TrayvonMartin’s death justified, excusable, negligent or accident.<<<

If true, brings a smile to MY face....please dear Father in heaven, let it be so


1,551 posted on 07/13/2013 3:20:05 PM PDT by viaveritasvita (The Grace of God has appeared, bringing Salvation to all men. Titus 2:11)
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To: Toespi

Fox legal says this indicates they are not buying self defense.


KNEW IT. I’m upset now...Oh well....


1,552 posted on 07/13/2013 3:20:32 PM PDT by yield 2 the right
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To: viaveritasvita; P-Marlowe
what the hell do freakin’ fox news experts know???!! sorry...how so?

They don't. It's all the same rile-up-everybody-and-hope-they-watch-us. They don't know what it "indicates" anymore than the man on moon. Sheesh. See #1529, P-Marlowe's theory sounds quite plausible.

1,553 posted on 07/13/2013 3:20:34 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: patriotspride

Several attorneys. One female said, this manslaughter charge was a terrible and shouldn’t have happened.


1,554 posted on 07/13/2013 3:20:35 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: P-Marlowe

May God in His mercy, free George Zimmerman. May He heal those in need of healing and quell the coming storm. Amen.


1,555 posted on 07/13/2013 3:20:36 PM PDT by tioga
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To: viaveritasvita

Praying for God to be merciful to George Zimmerman.


1,556 posted on 07/13/2013 3:20:46 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
"It could go either way, it could be a juror who wants to acquit and the others want manslaughter and they are trying to convince her to hop on board the manslaughter train, OR it could mean that there is one juror who wants manslaughter and the others want to acquit and they are trying to convince her to acquit"

Exactly. People are assuming the jury is of one mind already. There's no reason for that. One of the jurors might think it should be manslaughter because Z followed and the others seeking the clarification to convince her otherwise. Nobody knows what's going on, but it's a mistake to think they are all thinking alike.

1,557 posted on 07/13/2013 3:20:48 PM PDT by mlo
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To: Toespi
There are several possibilities. Here are three:
1,558 posted on 07/13/2013 3:20:48 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Harriet Meiers is looking pretty good right about now.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Thank you Papa!


1,559 posted on 07/13/2013 3:20:48 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: BuckeyeTexan

The State didn’t add it. In Florida, manslaughter is an automatic lesser-included charge to second-degree murder unless the State asks that it be excluded from the jury instructions. The Defense asked to have the manslaughter instructions stricken but the prosecution argued for it to be included.
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I thought it was an automatic 30 years if one killed someone younger than 18?


1,560 posted on 07/13/2013 3:21:00 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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