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Day 23 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Closing Statements
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 11, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/11/2013 4:59:59 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

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To: Marcella

Also during trial lawyers go after each other like they hate each other, then as soon as it is all over with they are patting each other on the back and going out for drinks together.


881 posted on 07/11/2013 9:28:31 AM PDT by Spunky
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To: Marcella

where are those desensitization targets used to train law enforcement on how to pull the trigger on a kid?


882 posted on 07/11/2013 9:28:46 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: mountaineer1997
This trial has set race relations back 80 years.

No, this trial is the result of race relations already being set back by this Administration. If they can get away with voter intimidation in Philadelphia, they can get away with anything.

883 posted on 07/11/2013 9:29:12 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: Steve_Seattle

>>>It seems unconstitutional to allow the jury to vote on a different crime than what was specified in the charges that were filed by the DA. The defense gears its arguments to ThOSE charges, and not to other hypothetical charges. So allowing the jury to convict on some other crime denies the defendant a proper defense.<<<

Agree completely...That’s the outrageous part in a nutshell.


884 posted on 07/11/2013 9:29:28 AM PDT by viaveritasvita (The Grace of God has appeared, bringing Salvation to all men. Titus 2:11)
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To: MNDude; JPX2011
he obviously had no idea of TM’s age when he shot him.

But he did know Trayvon was old enough to be out after dark, on a rainy night, with no adult supervision.

Maybe a 'minor' but certainly not a 'child'.

885 posted on 07/11/2013 9:29:39 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: CA Conservative

Precisely. It’s a true miscarriage of justice. It’s the type of thing that makes you want to drop your whole life, go to law school and become a defense attorney.

It’s also why I think West argued that verdict form should include not guilty at the top of the form and not some vague promise from the judge that it will be included somewhere on the page.


886 posted on 07/11/2013 9:30:39 AM PDT by JPX2011
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To: Jewbacca
She's 59....she wants a big retirement check and a "consultant" position and book rights.

She doesn't want to work. This was just her last shot at "fame".

My suggestion is a bobble head doll that also spins around with a black robe and a white stain.

887 posted on 07/11/2013 9:30:44 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

I would think so. The judge saying to the defense “explain it to the jury” is bull crap. The instructions are the most confusing part of a trial and most laymen don’t quit get what intent means in a legal manner. The state has NO case, and the judge is helping them get a conviction with throwing as many charges against Zimmerman as possible knowing damn well how juries operate. They will convict of something if there are enough charges, especially six women who want to appease the mob or punish GZ for something because the FEEL bad for TM’s parents.

Trust me GZ is going down. Noway there is a full acquittal now.


888 posted on 07/11/2013 9:30:45 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: Fawn

They NOW want to charge him with Negligible Child Abuse.


889 posted on 07/11/2013 9:30:56 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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This child abuse outrage...opens the floodgates for “children” to do violence as they please. Define “child!!”


890 posted on 07/11/2013 9:31:01 AM PDT by viaveritasvita (The Grace of God has appeared, bringing Salvation to all men. Titus 2:11)
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To: Spunky

Thank you!


891 posted on 07/11/2013 9:31:16 AM PDT by viaveritasvita (The Grace of God has appeared, bringing Salvation to all men. Titus 2:11)
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To: NKP_Vet

We most certainly will. Total sandbag job and stacking the deck. Oh let’s see he’s not guilty of Murder 2, so let’s go with manslaughter and 3rd degree murder. Disgusting.


892 posted on 07/11/2013 9:31:37 AM PDT by JPX2011
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To: CA Conservative
"It is kind of unbelievable that this is allowed. The state charges Zimmerman with Murder 2. Both the prosecution and defense conduct the whole trial on the basis of Murder 2. At the end of the trial, the prosecution says, “well, we don’t think we proved our case on Murder 2, so here are some other charges. You don’t get to defend your client on them before the jury or call witnesses to try to disprove the specific elements of the charges, though.”

That's why I think it is unconstitutional. The defendant is not allowed to present a complete case against the charges he is (belatedly) accused of at the end of the trial. In effect, this denies him a trial. The defense argument against murder 2 is NOT the same argument that you would use against other charges (child abuse, manslaughter, etc.).
893 posted on 07/11/2013 9:31:39 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

as I posted here earlier Z will also be charged with Ted Kennedy’s continued sobriety


894 posted on 07/11/2013 9:31:42 AM PDT by advertising guy (Phoenix...........where a prick in the butt ain't sexual.............it's a cactus)
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To: Elle Bee

not parole ... bond /bail


Oh, that bail is going to be *so* revoked if Zimmerman’s found guilty.


895 posted on 07/11/2013 9:32:06 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: don-o

This trial is like a 120th trimester abortion.


896 posted on 07/11/2013 9:32:14 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

LOL...there’s probably an environmental charge for abuse of those poor head bashing trees, too.


897 posted on 07/11/2013 9:33:15 AM PDT by viaveritasvita (The Grace of God has appeared, bringing Salvation to all men. Titus 2:11)
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To: tanknetter
where are those desensitization targets used to train law enforcement on how to pull the trigger on a kid?

I have read those exist and cops train with them, but if a kid has a weapon pointed at you, that person is no longer a kid - he is a deadly attacker. A gun magically changes any person of any age into a deadly attacker. A bullet from a so called kid can kill you just like a bullet from a military man.

898 posted on 07/11/2013 9:34:09 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: JPX2011
After all jury instructions are supposed to instruct the jury how to apply the law to the facts of the case.

Yes. ....and have become a standardized product of courtroom procedures.

So.... why this major attempt by the Judge, the State , and Defense to CHANGE the JURY INSTRUCTIONS ?

(kind of a rhetorical question, I think we all know why)

899 posted on 07/11/2013 9:35:47 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2
But he did know Trayvon was old enough to be out after dark, on a rainy night, with no adult supervision.

He described him as "late teens" to the police dispatcher.

900 posted on 07/11/2013 9:36:05 AM PDT by noexcuses
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