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Day 23 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Closing Statements
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 11, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/11/2013 4:59:59 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 11th, is DAY #23 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday the defense rested its case. A legal analysis via Professor Jacobson HERE.

From my perspective the entire case ended, as expected, early in the day yesterday when Judge Nelson gave George Zimmerman his personal Platinum Express DCA Acquittal Card. The ruling, and more importantly the legal determination she used on the ruling, regarding the Trayvon Martin phone evidence was an immediate Nuclear DCA option. Nelson essentially ruled against admissibility based on ”authentication”. She could have kept it out under other legal reasoning, but no, she chose the one without the slightest chance of being upheld by a District Court of Appeals. IMHO this was intentional and aligns itself with the way she has ruled during the pre-trial discovery phase, and during the case itself. She’s a rigid ideologue, but she’s not stupid – this was intentional.

By ruling the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be “authenticated” to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin just gave the dismissal of the case to George Zimmerman with a bow on it.

As it was carefully explained to me, the phone is like a bucket. The data inside the phone is like marbles in a bucket. Some marbles from calls, others from pictures, others from texts, etc. The State brought the bucket into court – and validated the bucket contents with their own witness from the phone company – Both the State and the defense then began arguing their case around the phone call marbles in the bucket – Primarily with Rachel Jeantel. But no-one challenged the bucket itself. The State authenticated the bucket and the content of the bucket during the introduction.

The defense picks up the same bucket the state hands them, and now begins to use the contents – texts and pictures – and then Nelson rules the bucket itself cannot be authenticated. It doesn’t work that way.

If the state authenticates evidence, it cannot be divided and only authentic when the state holds it, but not the defense. Flawed logic – ABSOLUTELY positioned to give such a prejudicial outcome, the appeal would result in dismissal, not retrial. Nelson gave the case away to George Zimmerman.

She could have ruled on relevance, admissibility, or other factors – but she chose the one destined to fail, “authentication”. She gave it away.

In other news, people are catching on to the Eric Holder, Department of Justice, Civil Rights Division, Community Relations Service – being the actual puppeteers behind the entire construct of the false case. To them we say “welcome to the party pal“.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; livezimmermantrial; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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621 posted on 07/11/2013 8:20:31 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (Molon Labe)
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To: NautiNurse

Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS

Attorneys are now debating defense request for instruction on circumstantial evidence. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


622 posted on 07/11/2013 8:20:33 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Guenevere

The whole point of this trial is to remove self-defense as a legal option. The goal is to teach everyone they must rely totally on the state to protect them. Any measure of self-reliance is forbidden in modern America.

If Zimmerman is found guilty, it will gut any and all neighborhood watch programs. Even calling the cops to investigate may be found in the future to have been a prejudicial act against Holder’s People...violating their civil rights.


623 posted on 07/11/2013 8:20:37 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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To: xzins

Liz Wiehl on Imus this morning (Imus and Liz are idiots) declared that there’s no doubt that Zimmerman caused the event, but that he’d be acquitted because the evidence is on his side. I would love to see the evidence she’s using to show “he caused it.” It doesn’t exist. If his “causing it” is SO FLIPPIN’ OBVIOUS, then he’d be convicted. And Imus was cheering in the background because he’s afraid of them “nappy headed words” of his years ago.


Liz Wiehl also was a big Clinton Defender....

” Posted on June 30, 2003 9:27:03 AM EDT by ConservativeMan55

Lis Wiehl who is a legal analyst for Foxnews co-hosted Fox and Friends this morning. I think that is perfectly fine, even though she was Bill Clinton’s lawyer during impeachment and a well known liberal.

Fox needs to now provide equal time and have Ann Coulter as a guest host for an entire week! Month? Permenant?

http://archives.thedaily.washington.edu/1999/020499/F1.lawlady.html

Lis Wiehl was second in command on President Clinton’s defense team during his impeachment. “

She has been on Fox long enough now that she’s somewhat sanitized that part of her past.


624 posted on 07/11/2013 8:20:43 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: Conservative145

Re: Defense Fund.

Maybe Rush should have a bake sale.


625 posted on 07/11/2013 8:21:04 AM PDT by IM2MAD (IM2MAD=Individual Motivated 2 Make A Difference)
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To: House Atreides

Jail


626 posted on 07/11/2013 8:21:31 AM PDT by RummyChick
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This judge knew this stuff was all coming — she and the state sandbagged the defense for months.

I wonder if O’Mara is now having second thoughts about his presser last night when he said that he is proud that they have preserved “the memory of Trayvon Martin”.

Has he woken up yet and realized that that may have been done at the expense of his client’s life???


627 posted on 07/11/2013 8:21:31 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: MNDude
also he’s viewed as a vigilante and someone who wants law and order

Which would make him a target for EVERYBODY, for the same reason that cops who get jailed are at risk from all the inmates.

628 posted on 07/11/2013 8:21:39 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: dragnet2

Earlier, Corey was seated in the last row of prosecutor tables.


629 posted on 07/11/2013 8:21:40 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Now we all have Obama phones.)
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To: JLS

Point. In the final statement MOM should point out to the jury that Trayvon was 19. Nothing entered into evidence proves he was a different age than the ogress.


630 posted on 07/11/2013 8:21:54 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: House Atreides

He looks like he is in prison.


631 posted on 07/11/2013 8:22:01 AM PDT by Aurorales (I will not be ridiculed into silence!)
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To: House Atreides

Looks like a threat to me...


632 posted on 07/11/2013 8:22:09 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: CAluvdubya

Get a pc or Android tablet/phone.


633 posted on 07/11/2013 8:22:14 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: XenaLee; xzins

That is probably a sufficiently flagrant violation of a defendant’s fifth amendment rights as to have her removed from the bench. This is a flagrant violation of the rules of Judicial Conduct.

I could not believe what I saw.


634 posted on 07/11/2013 8:22:15 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: JLS

The state included his age in the original charging document - meaning the state was planning this move since the beginning, but waited until today to tell the defense.


635 posted on 07/11/2013 8:22:19 AM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: xzins

“following someone now unlawful”

Crap, they better arrest me then. I did that yesterday to someone who did not belong in our neighborhood which has been recently plagued with burglaries. I asked him if he was looking for something and he drove away PDQ. I might have also muttered something like “fucking punks always get away”.


636 posted on 07/11/2013 8:22:20 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Guenevere

“It’s not just a racist matter....it’s another extension of gun control.”

Absolutely, a way to put fear into the minds of people to protect themselves.


637 posted on 07/11/2013 8:22:25 AM PDT by Conservative145
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To: patriotspride

I didn’t realize that about Wiehl. I do know she can be depended on to give a liberal view.

So can Gretchen Carlson (and most of the ladies) on social issues.


638 posted on 07/11/2013 8:22:25 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Uncle Chip

The judge might as well stop playing games and instruct the jury to disregard everything the defense and it’s witnesses have said.


639 posted on 07/11/2013 8:22:35 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: MHGinTN
West now making good argument for old, previously used (but possibly confusing, thus now limited) instructions as towards circumstantial evidence be allowed.
640 posted on 07/11/2013 8:22:39 AM PDT by BlueDragon
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