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Day 23 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Closing Statements
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 11, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/11/2013 4:59:59 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 11th, is DAY #23 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday the defense rested its case. A legal analysis via Professor Jacobson HERE.

From my perspective the entire case ended, as expected, early in the day yesterday when Judge Nelson gave George Zimmerman his personal Platinum Express DCA Acquittal Card. The ruling, and more importantly the legal determination she used on the ruling, regarding the Trayvon Martin phone evidence was an immediate Nuclear DCA option. Nelson essentially ruled against admissibility based on ”authentication”. She could have kept it out under other legal reasoning, but no, she chose the one without the slightest chance of being upheld by a District Court of Appeals. IMHO this was intentional and aligns itself with the way she has ruled during the pre-trial discovery phase, and during the case itself. She’s a rigid ideologue, but she’s not stupid – this was intentional.

By ruling the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be “authenticated” to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin just gave the dismissal of the case to George Zimmerman with a bow on it.

As it was carefully explained to me, the phone is like a bucket. The data inside the phone is like marbles in a bucket. Some marbles from calls, others from pictures, others from texts, etc. The State brought the bucket into court – and validated the bucket contents with their own witness from the phone company – Both the State and the defense then began arguing their case around the phone call marbles in the bucket – Primarily with Rachel Jeantel. But no-one challenged the bucket itself. The State authenticated the bucket and the content of the bucket during the introduction.

The defense picks up the same bucket the state hands them, and now begins to use the contents – texts and pictures – and then Nelson rules the bucket itself cannot be authenticated. It doesn’t work that way.

If the state authenticates evidence, it cannot be divided and only authentic when the state holds it, but not the defense. Flawed logic – ABSOLUTELY positioned to give such a prejudicial outcome, the appeal would result in dismissal, not retrial. Nelson gave the case away to George Zimmerman.

She could have ruled on relevance, admissibility, or other factors – but she chose the one destined to fail, “authentication”. She gave it away.

In other news, people are catching on to the Eric Holder, Department of Justice, Civil Rights Division, Community Relations Service – being the actual puppeteers behind the entire construct of the false case. To them we say “welcome to the party pal“.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; livezimmermantrial; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: RummyChick

Thanks..


41 posted on 07/11/2013 5:37:52 AM PDT by Fawn (In a World of Information, Ignorance is a Choice.)
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To: Clintons Are White Trash

She doesn’t give a sh** about the riots. I’m betting she has a plane flight to Vegas leaving at 7PM for Vegas.


42 posted on 07/11/2013 5:38:24 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: txmissy

Also saw “preparation drills for riots”....


43 posted on 07/11/2013 5:38:28 AM PDT by txmissy
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To: Sacajaweau
I think her forcing him to say it was his decision and his alone was a BIG mistake.

Nope. It was CYA to remove a possible grounds for appeal; i.e. that GZ did not understand his rights. Now, her demeanor in dealing with the attorneys and the asking before conclusion of defense is another matter. But, the question per se was correct

44 posted on 07/11/2013 5:40:15 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: RummyChick

Don’t know about the swearing in......but I have a question. The first time, she “quizzed” Z about testifying, it seemed to come out of no where. As I recall, it was after a break and he was just walking up to the defense table, I don’t even think the lawyers were at the table......very casual. Am I remembering this right?


45 posted on 07/11/2013 5:40:37 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: don-o

Thanks...yeah I saw MoM’s interviews last night.....does anyone think that the judge will NOT allow Manslaughter? if she throws that out, it will be a shocker for sure..


46 posted on 07/11/2013 5:40:38 AM PDT by Fawn (In a World of Information, Ignorance is a Choice.)
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To: don-o

The state’s tactics were successful. They wanted to run out the clock on the phone data and they did.

This trial will be known more for what did not make it into evidence than what did. If anyone would like to let’s start a list:

1] The Toxicology Report

2] The Autopsy Report

3] The Witnesses in fear for their safety

4] Cell Tower Ping Logs on Martin’s and Zimmerman’s phones

5] Picture of Martin from the family

6] Phone Texts about guns

7] Phone Texts about fighting

8] Phone Texts about Lean

9] Phone Texts about marijuana

[Am I wrong on any of these????]

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47 posted on 07/11/2013 5:41:46 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: JoeProBono

LOL! From the look on Guy’s face....

he looks like he has some rather x-rated intentions for that poor dummy. I think we’re seeing a clear case of doll-abuse.


48 posted on 07/11/2013 5:42:24 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: RummyChick

here is a break down of yesterday for those that missed it..including Guy’s problems he created with cross

http://statelymcdanielmanor.wordpress.com/

The doll did him no favors


49 posted on 07/11/2013 5:42:27 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Sacajaweau
Where’s next week’s picture...of Nelson in Vegas...continuing her pattern of playing craps....

I rather see Judge TOOL vegetating at a bank of slot machines.

50 posted on 07/11/2013 5:43:32 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Now we all have Obama phones.)
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To: JoeProBono

That’s a great picture - says it all.


51 posted on 07/11/2013 5:44:13 AM PDT by Fido969
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To: RummyChick

Fox News just replayed the video where Judge Debra browbeats GZ about testifying, and gets snotty (again and as usual) with West. Greta weighed in and called it....the judge was completely out of line with her timing. I would go a step further and say that she was out of line with her pissy attitude and demeanor, as well. She really has a “thing” against West for ‘some’ reason. And I suspect that the feeling is mutual.


52 posted on 07/11/2013 5:46:14 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: usual suspect
That’s funny, because I think Attny West looks like Lee Van Cleef.

Naw. Ray Walston as "Mr. Hand" in Fast Times at Ridgemont High.


53 posted on 07/11/2013 5:46:17 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: spacejunkie2001

she’s definitely the witch we think she is and I think she’s basically incompetent and that’s how she blew it. Not some well laid intricacy to get the case thrown out.

And, I want GZ to be found NOT GUILTY NOW, not down the road with an appeal.
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Ditto on the judge being VERY incompetent. Her premature direct querying of Zimmerman was a case in point. I loved the way Greta Van Susteran laid into on her show last night about how incredibly wrong this was.

And Judge Nelson has an injudicial temperament. She probably had this premature act triggered because she had been engaging in wishful thinking that George would somehow be dumb enough to take the stand and she absentmindedly and impulsively began to query Zimmerman. I strongly suspect that she quickly realized her mistake when West objected, but her pride didn’t allow her to self-correct.

Pure incompentence was on display by this poor excuse for a judge.


54 posted on 07/11/2013 5:46:34 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: NautiNurse

MOM using the doll
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD4aPMzC5VE


55 posted on 07/11/2013 5:47:05 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Fawn
does anyone think that the judge will NOT allow Manslaughter?

If the writer of the original post is correct... that Judge gave the defense a gift in excluding the phone transcripts and pics... then perhaps she will give them another one and stick to Murder 2.

56 posted on 07/11/2013 5:47:23 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Uncle Chip
Wonder how many times Eric Holder has texted the judge overnight.
57 posted on 07/11/2013 5:48:44 AM PDT by McGruff (I need a new party.)
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To: RummyChick

anyone hear if the jury stood up while MOM used the doll?


58 posted on 07/11/2013 5:49:06 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RandallFlagg

more dryfus than clint,think hes a Marshall


59 posted on 07/11/2013 5:50:36 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: All

Per HLN they will start charges hearing in about 10 mins


60 posted on 07/11/2013 5:50:50 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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