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Day 23 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Closing Statements
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 11, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/11/2013 4:59:59 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 11th, is DAY #23 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday the defense rested its case. A legal analysis via Professor Jacobson HERE.

From my perspective the entire case ended, as expected, early in the day yesterday when Judge Nelson gave George Zimmerman his personal Platinum Express DCA Acquittal Card. The ruling, and more importantly the legal determination she used on the ruling, regarding the Trayvon Martin phone evidence was an immediate Nuclear DCA option. Nelson essentially ruled against admissibility based on ”authentication”. She could have kept it out under other legal reasoning, but no, she chose the one without the slightest chance of being upheld by a District Court of Appeals. IMHO this was intentional and aligns itself with the way she has ruled during the pre-trial discovery phase, and during the case itself. She’s a rigid ideologue, but she’s not stupid – this was intentional.

By ruling the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be “authenticated” to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin just gave the dismissal of the case to George Zimmerman with a bow on it.

As it was carefully explained to me, the phone is like a bucket. The data inside the phone is like marbles in a bucket. Some marbles from calls, others from pictures, others from texts, etc. The State brought the bucket into court – and validated the bucket contents with their own witness from the phone company – Both the State and the defense then began arguing their case around the phone call marbles in the bucket – Primarily with Rachel Jeantel. But no-one challenged the bucket itself. The State authenticated the bucket and the content of the bucket during the introduction.

The defense picks up the same bucket the state hands them, and now begins to use the contents – texts and pictures – and then Nelson rules the bucket itself cannot be authenticated. It doesn’t work that way.

If the state authenticates evidence, it cannot be divided and only authentic when the state holds it, but not the defense. Flawed logic – ABSOLUTELY positioned to give such a prejudicial outcome, the appeal would result in dismissal, not retrial. Nelson gave the case away to George Zimmerman.

She could have ruled on relevance, admissibility, or other factors – but she chose the one destined to fail, “authentication”. She gave it away.

In other news, people are catching on to the Eric Holder, Department of Justice, Civil Rights Division, Community Relations Service – being the actual puppeteers behind the entire construct of the false case. To them we say “welcome to the party pal“.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; livezimmermantrial; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: zencycler

Bravo!! Author, author!


2,601 posted on 07/11/2013 4:34:12 PM PDT by viaveritasvita (The Grace of God has appeared, bringing Salvation to all men. Titus 2:11)
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To: xzins
And he can’t understand how this “innocent” 17 year old ended up dead.

If BDLR made any claims surrounding TM's character, that should at minimum open the door for the defense to make some comments about his character in closing. It would have been better if they could introduce more evidence of his character, but any mothers on the juror should recognize that the father's calling Juvie looking for his kid means that he (the father) knows his kid was hardly "innocent".

2,602 posted on 07/11/2013 4:34:28 PM PDT by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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To: All

You gotta understand something:

Angela Corey and her merry band of prosecutors were dead serious about the “child abuse” charge and so was Judge Nelson.

The prosecutors had an entire dossier of cases to back up that charge that must have taken months of research.

It was all but a done deal with Judge Nelson.

Then Nelson took a recess and when she came back she was of a different mindset and the state was none too happy with her change of mind.

Somebody shook her tree in chambers and one can only guess who that was.


2,603 posted on 07/11/2013 4:34:38 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: denydenydeny

“With clearly more to go. People in the courtroom said it was clear he had lost the jury’s attention and sympathy”

that explains the weird ending


2,604 posted on 07/11/2013 4:35:00 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: All

You have got to check out how Angela Corey reacts to Bernie saying “Catch the f’ing punk that gets away.” Hahahaha!
Start the video at 46:30, it made my day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrNemHVvr90&feature=c4-overview&list=UUnN4ZxVAFoGrg-EhoRxhtTA


2,605 posted on 07/11/2013 4:35:07 PM PDT by Gorilla44
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To: UCANSEE2
Ya think there was a chance the jurors heard that comment? And, if they did, do you think they would discuss the “Why”?
2,606 posted on 07/11/2013 4:37:19 PM PDT by Bronzy
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To: Uncle Chip

Good point. Oh to have been a fly on the wall in chambers to hear whatever transpired! But...no...wait...not a fly...I would have been wiped out by the Gila Monster!


2,607 posted on 07/11/2013 4:38:16 PM PDT by viaveritasvita (The Grace of God has appeared, bringing Salvation to all men. Titus 2:11)
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To: viaveritasvita

the thought crossed my mind that this nutcase could go back in and say that i said anything she wanted. i blew it off.
you all are right though. i will watch my back.
she became so ANIMATED i really was wondering if she was goibg to get violent. (no cameras).
she pissed me off so - she needed to know that i would take a pounding in the head as serious as zimmerman.
ps. when i was running around gathering supplies for haiti guess how much SHE contributed?
you got it. NADA


2,608 posted on 07/11/2013 4:38:31 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: novemberslady

She’ll care a lot less if Zimmerman wins. If he loses, there will be appeals, which won’t do anything but suck for her. Highly paid State investigators will be rifling though her stuff, private investigators too, but they won’t be as gentle this time (either side). They might dig out something wild, like she was Traydemark’s techie who set up his double password protected phone. Ain’t nobody got time fo dat!

But if he wins, it’s all a footnote forever, nothing more.

So, what should the illiterate manatee hope for? I think, if she had half a brain, she should be quietly rooting for George but I’ll bet she’s not. Because I don’t think she does.


2,609 posted on 07/11/2013 4:39:25 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Nervous Tick

I was always the moral compass. I pointed South.


2,610 posted on 07/11/2013 4:40:49 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Gorilla44

LOL! What do you think she was thinking?


2,611 posted on 07/11/2013 4:40:59 PM PDT by viaveritasvita (The Grace of God has appeared, bringing Salvation to all men. Titus 2:11)
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To: moehoward
IIRC, Bernie insinuated that Z knew the camera was not working.
2,612 posted on 07/11/2013 4:41:16 PM PDT by Bronzy
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To: NOVACPA; Marcella

Let’s hope he plays “Band on the Run” for when you’re all trying to get back to your cars after the show.


2,613 posted on 07/11/2013 4:42:11 PM PDT by JediJones (Gridlock means taking credit for stuff that automatically happens while you do nothing)
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To: showme_the_Glory
What is an “overloaded” gun?

If a firearm has e.g. a seven round magazine, many people will load the magazine with seven rounds, insert it, and chamber a round, leaving the magazine with six. On many (but not all) firearms, it would then be possible to remove the magazine, insert another round, and re-insert the magazine. I've not studied the exact dimensions involved, but I believe inserting a fully-loaded magazine into a firearm whose action is closed will push down somewhat on the top round; a magazine which didn't have to allow that when fully loaded could be made a little shorter than one which did; not all magazines allow that, and consequently not all firearms can usefully hold "full magazine plus one".

Personally, I would tend to think that such loading would be a nuisance, since every time the weapon is cleared one would have a cartridge one would have to store somewhere other than the magazine, but I would not begrudge anyone who wanted to go through such effort in order to have a maximally-loaded weapon.

2,614 posted on 07/11/2013 4:43:18 PM PDT by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill
What is the penalty for him just stating the info to the jury?

The attorney gets jailed for contempt of court, and the judge gets to declare a mistrial which--because it was caused by the defense attorney's actions--would give the state a chance to put the defendant through another trial.

2,615 posted on 07/11/2013 4:44:56 PM PDT by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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To: viaveritasvita
What do you think she was thinking?

I know how he felt because the "fu***ng punk" that I've been after for over a year is about to get away from me.

2,616 posted on 07/11/2013 4:48:00 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: viaveritasvita
Sorry if I offended.

My point was to illustrate the level of discourse used by Bernie who also forgot to mention that Trayvon might be on a precise par with the 2 kids (one of whom lived in the development) who robbed and, if they had gain access to the room in which she had hidden, might have raped and killed the young housewife and murdered her child.

This was the mindset of GZ...he knew how serious was the threat against himself and his neighbors.

Of course he thought that the oddly gaited young man (hence the name "lean") might be a thief and, possibly, killer.

He was scared as h$ll (oops, hope that didn't offend)...but he knew that if someone didn't take a stand, it was just a matter of time till the worst happened.

2,617 posted on 07/11/2013 4:48:18 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (You can't eat Sharia)
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To: Gorilla44
OMG! Corey's ugly face could stop a sun dial!

Leni

2,618 posted on 07/11/2013 4:48:21 PM PDT by MinuteGal (')
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To: over3Owithabrain

On the other hand, the TM family will gleefully bask in their new wealth gained by the death of their son.


2,619 posted on 07/11/2013 4:48:36 PM PDT by Bronzy
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To: Donnafrflorida

I’m glad you had the guts to voice your opinion and equally glad that you will watch your back.

>>>>guess how much SHE contributed? you got it. NADA<<<<

Surprise!


2,620 posted on 07/11/2013 4:49:26 PM PDT by viaveritasvita (The Grace of God has appeared, bringing Salvation to all men. Titus 2:11)
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