Posted on 07/10/2013 5:15:07 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
Today, July 10th, is DAY #22 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.
Yesterday began with a boom as defense expert witness, world renowned Dr Vincent Di Maio took to the stand to validate the forensic evidence supporting George Zimmerman’s version of the encounter with Trayvon Martin. However, the day ended with an even bigger THUNDERCLAP in an epic 10pm showdown as Don West took on both the State prosecutors and trial Judge Nelson after the jury was released. Ending with Judge Nelson, turning her back and walking out of court. Unreal. A great analysis of the events from yesterday is available HERE.
The late night argument, not by the State, but by Judge Nelson herself, regarding phone evidence authentication, is so weak and insufferably devoid of legal analysis it is absurd on its face. Then again, this is the same judge who said a few days ago, flippantly in open court, that evidence should be “shredded” (Dr. Bao notes) after use. D’oh
Essentially Nelson argued that the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be authenticated to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin (despite two security codes) because anyone could have sent them. Whiskey*Tango*Foxtrot !!
How can an email be used in a sex offender case? How can phone records be used in RICO cases? How can GPS evidence be used in Insurance Cases? How are photographs taken by perps used against them? Think about it.
You can’t argue that evidence cannot be admitted because someone else might have made the actual phone call; Someone else might have physically sent the email; Someone else actually accessed the website; Someone else might have been the driver of the car; Or, someone else could possibly have been behind the viewing lens of the camera etc.
No, that argument does not mean you can arbitrarily exclude evidence. And this was the basis for her argument (watch the video).
Sure, that’s an argument which can be presented to the jury by the other side, as a counter point to create doubt with the jury, but it can’t be a reasonable consideration for total evidence exclusion. Then again, this is Judge Nelson – who in multiple prior cases has a high historical propensity of being overruled by the 5th District Court of Appeals.
It should be noted the NAACP Annual National Convention starts in Orlando on Friday; Additionally, preparations are being made in/around Miami-Dade for a Wednesday defense wrapped up with a community/LEO preparation meeting yesterday.
These people are employed by government....
Nothing else needs to be said.
Bed time. As always, thanks to all for the thread, the insights, the encouragement, the commiserating, etc.
Dear G-d please foil and frustrate the enemy and strengthen us.
Yes, this case has indeed shaken me to the core.
V3 (you can call me thread killer for short LOL).
My Lord that is a scarey looking woman.
To think, I used to make fun of those who believe in other alien like beings here on earth!
Seriously, it’s beginning to feel like the walking dead...they have all come back to spread their evil and horror!
AAAcccckkkkkkk! Nightmare inducing!
Was that testimony before the jury??? or a proffer? I can’t remember.
Dart board size!
If they do allow that as a possibility then that is going to be immediately reversible because he did not have a chance to defend himself against the charge of manslaughter.
Voluntary Manslaughter ("Manslaughter by Act" in Florida) requires that the Defendant intentionally commit an act or acts that cause the death of victim.
Therefore, GZ's intention to shoot does not exclude Manslaughter.
At this point it comes down to jury instructions and how well O’Mara is able to connect the dots and pull it all together, and of course how many times Bernie can say “^*&%#@* punks” and “^&%holes” in his closing remarks.
Greta really bashed Nelson tonight. Found it interesting that she has been all about hurry up, and NOW puts the brakes on completely slowing down the pace.
Testimony. Don’t think he did a proffer
Thanks. Love more info about Greta and others ... :o)
My favorite uncle (retired Naval JAG officer) lives in the panhandle of Fl. (Gulf Breeze) A very conservative area. He speaks often of the FloriDuh “chad” counters. He has been following the trial closely, thinks an acquital is coming. But he is worried about the continuing political machinations. He also thinks the Judge has committed many reversible errors.
Gretawire question tonight is about judge questioning Z. Over 98%. Against the judge !
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Then here’s more Bunny......Greta said Nelson was absolutely wrong in her questioning of Zimmerman re testifying. She confirmed the fact that the defense had not rested, there were still two witnesses and if things went bad with those witnesses Z may have had to testify and he was already locked in and couldn’t. She came between the client and attorney relationship , and it had been the second time she had asked him about his decision to testify. She said, it was absolutely wrong and she was mad.
Greta has been great on this.
Many prophecies exist describing as the world given over to demons and demonic thinking in the last days. I 100% believe it's happening now. More specific prophecies such as "children killing children" -- 27 shot in Chicago over the weekend -- seem to be coming true daily.
so, not a good place for witness protection?
Thanks for the thorough explaination about the drug evidence, ucansee2. Very much appreciated.
Here entire panel were livid over the judges behavior today and last night. Even Ted Williams and the crazy guy from San Francisco
*snicker*
How long do you think the jury will need to deliberate?
The summations are Thursday, I think; the NAACP will convene this weekend.
Maybe jurors should high tail out of town and make their deliberations. There would be officers of the court there.
Just leave the "guilty/not guilty" until after the NAACP is out of town. Of course there will be riots if "not guilty".
Even as I am typing this, I know its just "crazy talk"!
I keep thinking of the Panther saying that they would not tear up "their" communities, that they will tear up Whiteys neighborhood.
And, yes, I am a chicken **** for cowering. If they riot, they probably will riot big time. Innocent people will get hurt; property will be damaged.
Agitators are being bussed in.
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