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Day 22 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 10, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/10/2013 5:15:07 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 10th, is DAY #22 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday began with a boom as defense expert witness, world renowned Dr Vincent Di Maio took to the stand to validate the forensic evidence supporting George Zimmerman’s version of the encounter with Trayvon Martin. However, the day ended with an even bigger THUNDERCLAP in an epic 10pm showdown as Don West took on both the State prosecutors and trial Judge Nelson after the jury was released. Ending with Judge Nelson, turning her back and walking out of court. Unreal. A great analysis of the events from yesterday is available HERE.

The late night argument, not by the State, but by Judge Nelson herself, regarding phone evidence authentication, is so weak and insufferably devoid of legal analysis it is absurd on its face. Then again, this is the same judge who said a few days ago, flippantly in open court, that evidence should be “shredded” (Dr. Bao notes) after use. D’oh

Essentially Nelson argued that the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be authenticated to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin (despite two security codes) because anyone could have sent them. Whiskey*Tango*Foxtrot !!

How can an email be used in a sex offender case? How can phone records be used in RICO cases? How can GPS evidence be used in Insurance Cases? How are photographs taken by perps used against them? Think about it.

You can’t argue that evidence cannot be admitted because someone else might have made the actual phone call; Someone else might have physically sent the email; Someone else actually accessed the website; Someone else might have been the driver of the car; Or, someone else could possibly have been behind the viewing lens of the camera etc.

No, that argument does not mean you can arbitrarily exclude evidence. And this was the basis for her argument (watch the video).

Sure, that’s an argument which can be presented to the jury by the other side, as a counter point to create doubt with the jury, but it can’t be a reasonable consideration for total evidence exclusion. Then again, this is Judge Nelson – who in multiple prior cases has a high historical propensity of being overruled by the 5th District Court of Appeals.

It should be noted the NAACP Annual National Convention starts in Orlando on Friday; Additionally, preparations are being made in/around Miami-Dade for a Wednesday defense wrapped up with a community/LEO preparation meeting yesterday.


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To: Uncle Chip; All

disclaimer: Although I have been ridiculing the hosts on WTF TV , I am ridiculing their behavior, because most of it is due to MONEY.

Both are intelligent men, and they have a job. I think they are trying to be fair, but they have had an ‘agenda’ and desired outcome. I think they are starting to deal with case going south fairly well.

BUT, they’re still morons. So am I, probably.


1,741 posted on 07/10/2013 12:58:25 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: rolling_stone

How in the hell can it take so long to rule that the question wasn’t rebuttal??


1,742 posted on 07/10/2013 12:58:29 PM PDT by Raebie (WS)
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To: rolling_stone

This is more and more reminding me of the Roscoe Arbuckle kangaroo courts of the ‘20s. Hopefully it won’t take three trials for justice to be done this time.


1,743 posted on 07/10/2013 12:58:41 PM PDT by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: AppyPappy

And don’t forget. She too has a Jewish-sounding name (Steinberg). She is toast, either way.

http://judgepedia.org/index.php/Debra_Steinberg_Nelson

Couldn’t happen to a more deserving leftist hack, IMO.


1,744 posted on 07/10/2013 12:58:43 PM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: the-gooroo

No.


1,745 posted on 07/10/2013 12:58:44 PM PDT by txmissy
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To: AppyPappy

Given the judge’s lack of concern for justice, I’m having difficulty caring for her disposition after the trial.


1,746 posted on 07/10/2013 12:58:46 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: AppyPappy
It’s the white lady’s fault

That's always the case my my house

But I have the good sense to never say it...

1,747 posted on 07/10/2013 12:58:55 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: NautiNurse

“TS Chantal is falling apart. Maybe significant rain. Wind not an issue.”

Not the case here in Northern Ohio. We’ve got intense storms, heavy rain, and tornado warnings!


1,748 posted on 07/10/2013 12:59:03 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: over3Owithabrain
Why Is Everyone So Sure It Will Be Black On White ?

I'm not in floriduh, but I AM white, and I AM pissed at this judge, and I WOULD be prepared to premptively send messages.

1,749 posted on 07/10/2013 12:59:09 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: Uncle Chip

The last witness said her break in was done by two AA teenagers. One was arrested and released and re arrested. One lived near the back exit.

Who was the other one? Who lives near the back exit ?


1,750 posted on 07/10/2013 12:59:13 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: the-gooroo

Defense won the right, but did not present the evidence.


1,751 posted on 07/10/2013 12:59:52 PM PDT by tioga
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To: AppyPappy

Someone is pressuring her, probably a time estimate so they can get ready for riots.


1,752 posted on 07/10/2013 1:00:00 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: veteranzd

It will be interesting to see if that happens in this case. I wouldn’t doubt it in the least, knowing THIS judge.


1,753 posted on 07/10/2013 1:00:08 PM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: AppyPappy

I thought maybe she’d had that date earlier because she had a hard time saying Zimmerman several times during her freakout with George and West.


1,754 posted on 07/10/2013 1:00:20 PM PDT by MomofMarine
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Which side of Sandusky?


1,755 posted on 07/10/2013 1:00:36 PM PDT by Eepsy
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To: Raebie

Longer still, they are sending the jury out while the argument continues.


1,756 posted on 07/10/2013 1:00:42 PM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: All

Pic of Witness Pollock’s website:

https://twitter.com/EvanBenn/status/355051035292741632/photo/1


1,757 posted on 07/10/2013 1:00:55 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: fatima
I’ve never seen that before.

There are a ton of things I've seen in this trial that I never saw before.

1,758 posted on 07/10/2013 1:01:01 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: SteveH
Given the judge’s lack of concern for justice, I’m having difficulty caring for her disposition after the trial.

but just think of the ovation when she enters the NAACP convention this weekend

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1,759 posted on 07/10/2013 1:01:03 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: viaveritasvita

V3 = The Way, The Truth, The Life??


1,760 posted on 07/10/2013 1:01:33 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Let the redeemed of The LORD say so, whom He hath redeemed from the hand of the enemy. (Ps. 107:2))
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