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Day 21 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 9, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/09/2013 4:51:37 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 9th, is DAY #21 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday was the first full day of defense witnesses. Perhaps the most significant of the first set were the two police officers who stated Tracy Martin, Trayvon’s father, said on 2/28/12 the cries for help on the 911 calls were NOT Trayvon. Later in the day Tracy Martin took the stand and essentially said the two detectives were lying. A great analysis of the events from yesterday is available HERE.

What additionally strikes as important to us is the first signs of desperation from the original nucleus of the Scheme Team construct, Benjamin Crump and Daryl Parks – attorneys for the Martin family. Parks appeared on Piers Morgan show last night and the video should be watched by anyone who knows how the scheme was constructed.

We accept that Mark O’Mara is conflicted in this case, and he is trying to walk a fine line between presenting a defense to a case built on political pressure and outright fraud; Yet simultaneously avoiding exposition of both the politics and the fraud itself.

The intentionally avoided open doors exposing the fraud creates anxiety for those of us who know what is inside the room he is avoiding. Our prayers are that his passing those wide open doors is based on prudence [within an unknown strategy]. However, our fear is the hasty and politically correct avoidance might cause him to pass by the room holding the key to George Zimmerman’s ultimate ‘long-term’ freedom.

It should be noted the NAACP Annual National Convention starts in Orlando on Friday; Additionally, preparations are being made in/around Miami-Dade for a Wednesday defense wrap up with a community/LEO preparation meeting today.

(Excerpt) Read more at wftv.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: george; kangaroocourt; showtrial; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: Sacajaweau

Yep. Just how many layers of password protection is required to reasonably assume the content originated from the device’s owner?

Regarding the video. Geragos says it be best used during closing argument.
Good point.


2,601 posted on 07/09/2013 8:24:08 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: EDINVA

>> She said she had not yet formed an opinion about the case

Yeah, I saw that, but I didn’t believe it because she’s from Chicago.

:-)

Seriously... I see your point and I hope all six of these women put aside any and all prejudices and weigh the evidence impartially... that’s ALL I ask. Because if they do that well, I’m convinced they’ll acquit George Zimmerman.


2,602 posted on 07/09/2013 8:29:28 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Nita Nupress

If you follow link to video above I think they’ve know since January. They actually published a few pictures from the double password files then
Caught red handed


2,603 posted on 07/09/2013 8:29:41 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: Cyber Liberty

>> Did West say something that really infuriated her?

I don’t think so... personally, I think it had just been a looooong day and she was craving some fresh hay and a lick or two on the ol’ molasses block.

>> Did he call the prosecutors “liars?”

Not in so many words, but the insinuation that they have been willfully dishonest in the discovery process was definitely there in his statements. On the other hand, as someone on this thread commented, if the persecution has been dishonest with the defense in withholding evidence, then they have been dishonest with Judge Elsie ...excuse me, Judge Debbie too. So she should be pissed at the pros, not the d’s.


2,604 posted on 07/09/2013 8:35:44 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: BunnySlippers

My opinion only. Testimony will be left in with the Judge giving instructions to Juors to understand his being in courtroom. The will be told that they may or may not believe any or all or none of his testimony.


2,605 posted on 07/09/2013 8:35:52 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Waiting for the Golden Screw to be removed from Obama's navel and his a$$ falls off!)
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To: BunnySlippers

Thanks! I can’t wait til tomorrow to watch without the horrid commentary of the HLN folks!


2,606 posted on 07/09/2013 8:36:45 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (Molon Labe)
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To: Sacajaweau

One was the animator who spoke with Mr Good. Not sure of the other.


2,607 posted on 07/09/2013 8:37:51 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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Video: Judge Storms Out of Zimmerman Trial

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3041008/posts


2,608 posted on 07/09/2013 8:39:15 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Nita Nupress

>> At what point in the trial did the defense learn about these text messages?

They have had the “binary” files — not human readable — for several weeks. (However that’s months LESS time than the prosecution has had with those same files.) They have only been able to make sense of the binary files for a shorter time (couple weeks maybe?) with the help of their expert witness.


2,609 posted on 07/09/2013 8:39:37 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: CAluvdubya

It’s at fox news.com by clicking GRAVEL TO GAVEL COVERAGE.


2,610 posted on 07/09/2013 8:41:00 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: zeugma

>> Or he could FTP the file to a specified location. A CRC check or MD5 of the file would be enough to validate that it is the same file. This is not rocket science.

Yep, running aground on those kinds of technical problems is pretty lame.


2,611 posted on 07/09/2013 8:42:40 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: PghBaldy

What a bitch!!!


2,612 posted on 07/09/2013 8:48:46 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: BunnySlippers

Molly was the reporter from MyFox Orlando and she told Greta that the defense wants to submit Trayvons text msgs. as they show he knew fighting and wanted to buy a gun. They had no opinion on this but rather, just discussed what had happened for the day.


2,613 posted on 07/09/2013 8:49:20 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: BunnySlippers

It is here....and already watched it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1Zw-NjAz-I&feature=player_embedded


2,614 posted on 07/09/2013 9:00:48 PM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: Cyber Liberty

>> Did he call the prosecutors “liars?”

I listened again to the end of tonight’s tapes...

In fact he DID say pretty much that. His exact words were that the prosecution “lied to this court”.


2,615 posted on 07/09/2013 9:01:26 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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Authenticating Trayvon Martin’s Digital Records

http://blog.richardhornsby.com/2013/06/authenticating-trayvon-martins-digital-records/

And it is for this last reason that I suspect the George Zimmerman defense team will try to get Trayvon Martin’s digital records in. While Trayvon Martin’s messages about fighting may be hearsay; the knowledge that they bestowed upon the recipient create a non-hearsay reason to admit them. i.e. to show that Trayvon Martin was a seasoned street fighter.

As an aside, if George Zimmerman’s defense team has the recipients of such messages available, I suspect that it is these witnesses whom the George Zimmerman defense team is concerned will be subject to retaliation or retribution.

Because most any person who knew Trayvon Martin would be from South Florida. Thus they would likely be ostracized within their community and subject to some form of retaliation for testifying “against” Trayvon Martin.


2,616 posted on 07/09/2013 9:10:45 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

wanted to say how much I’ve appreciated your body of work and accurate knowledge.......thank you


2,617 posted on 07/09/2013 9:12:07 PM PDT by advertising guy (Phoenix...........where a prick in the butt ain't sexual.............it's a cactus)
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To: Uncle Chip

great link and proves this judge is ignorant of precident law and remedy


2,618 posted on 07/09/2013 9:21:57 PM PDT by advertising guy (Phoenix...........where a prick in the butt ain't sexual.............it's a cactus)
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To: Nervous Tick

That’s pretty huge if the state prosecutors are found to lie and hide evidence. It’s going to hurt their credibility for future cases and could cause old convictions to get looked at again.


2,619 posted on 07/09/2013 9:22:27 PM PDT by MNDude (Sorry for typos. Probably written on a smartphone, and I have big clumsy fingers.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Holy crapola. Cannot believe what all happened. I had to go out for awhile and all hell broke loose. Cannot wait til we start tomorrow. Should be something.


2,620 posted on 07/09/2013 9:24:52 PM PDT by tioga
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