Posted on 07/06/2013 12:52:17 PM PDT by marktwain
Prosecutors in the George Zimmerman second degree murder trial have pushed hard on two points as they seek to make their case against him: that the injuries to Zimmerman on the night Trayvon Martin died were insignificant and that he had studied Floridas Stand Your Ground law in a college class in 2010.
To win conviction on second-degree murder, the prosecution has to show that the death was caused by a criminal act demonstrating a depraved mind without regard for human life.
Thats why the prosecutor keeps pushing the claim that Zimmerman profiled Martin because he was black. Meanwhile, the lesser charge of manslaughter generally is a crime that's been committed in the heat of passion, where there is no premeditation. The jury would have to believe Zimmerman lost his temper in shooting Martin.
People can use force to protect themselves when they reasonably believe it is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to themselves. On this score, the testimony of the Jacksonville medical examiner, Valerie Rao, that Zimmerman injuries were insignificant is largely irrelevant.
A broken nose, a head being slammed into cement, and punches to the face may not have left Zimmerman incapacitated. The important question is whether such an attack with a man on top of him would leave Zimmerman to reasonably believe that there was a threat of imminent death or great bodily harm to himself.
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“A broken nose, a head being slammed into cement, and punches to the face may not have left Zimmerman incapacitated”
I think the whole idea of self defense is to avoid incapacitation.
When one is pinned to the ground getting their head smashed in, how exactly does one “retreat”? Hope the defense brings this point up.
Tit for Tat. Spike lees, Sharpton and other address should be put out if any trouble starts by these leftist race baitors.
The help screaming is what? ... 1 or 2 minute's worth.
Analyze ..
Z's on top .. doing what?
He's got a gun out, waving it in TM's face and TM just lays there (unscathed) and screams for help?
WHEN did Z's injuries happen?
BEFORE or AFTER he got the best of TM and for 1 or 2 minutes torments him with a gun in his face ?
I'm gonn'a kill you n*gg* ??
None of anything pointing to Z besting TM fits.
Mama martin says it's her boy ... why is your boy so afraid ? Why is he not fighting for his life? Why are there NO marks indicating TM was being beaten and afraid for his life to scream help so many times for so long ?
Zimmerman plotted killing since college? Wow. I also heard another “proof” - Zimmerman's gun was off the safety, meaning he was hunting... That's the evidence??? It's not even circumstantial! Studying law in college 2 years ago? Off safety? When alone confronting with questions a 6 feet guy with gang tattoos it is now advisable to put the gun on safety lock? Just in case if he attacks you, you won't harm him...
My husband owns a gun like Zimmerman’s; he said there is no safety on it. My husband is a cop—I think he’d know!
So, when the pundits make absurd statements like that, they obviously haven’t done their homework.
I listened to her testimony.
I expect the defense will be bringing this up.
with the gun he had, the trigger is the safety - at least from what I understood of it.
This jury also will be ostracized in their community and families if they convict Zimmerman....and if their families were smart they slipped a little info during the family outing on Jul 4.
You can bet the Hispanic lady juror thinks a lot differently after Mom Zimmerman and uncle Jorge Meza testified yesterday
IF the resident had a son, he would look AND ACT just like Trayvon.
nobody remembers juries.
oj jury?
king jury?
kacey anthony?
No trial with racial overtones is over until Eric Holder says it's over. If Zimmerman is acquitted, I fully expect him to bring a Federal complaint of Civil Rights violations against Zimmerman as soon as the riots are over.
The prosecution said that there was no DNA from Martin on Zimmerman’s gun. That information was designed to create doubt about the theory the neighborhood watch volunteer shot Martin only to prevent the teen from reaching the weapon first. However, The holster of Zimmermans gun had DNA from at least three people. One is Zimmerman, but it is uncertain whether one of the two remaining was Martin. Who are the other one or two unidentified people?
Perhaps the defense will nail this DNA inconsistency next week. It may be as simple as Zimmerman got to the gun first when he realized Martin’s hand was going after it.
Angela Corey holding the hand of tm’s mother in photo op support demands a bias investigation.
Did gz mom have a special mayora audio presentation?
Yes the gun expert testified to that fact, bullet in chamber is par for the course and no safety on this gun. She was one of the better to testify,we’ll spoken and seemed to have no agenda.
The media is waiting for the verdict, hoping that the evil White man is convicted. But if not, they are ready to film the riots, and to turn their cameras off when an innocent White person is pulled out of his car and beaten mercilessly. The cops are ready to stand by and do nothing.
From the manual for the gun (http://www.keltecweapons.com/uploaded_files/resources/f_40e0390a11d369dfd1ab8071bc5c91efPF-9_Manual.pdf): SAFETY To achieve highest operator safety, combined with ease of handling, the pistol is "DOUBLE ACTION ONLY". It has no manual safety and the hammer is never fully cocked. The hammer is of a novel design. Compared to a conventional hammer, the pistol is very light and consequently, operates at high velocities. It is driven by a special free floating extension spring. Furthermore, the hammer's mass is concentrated around its axis giving an inertia in the critical direction of the firing pin close to zero. In its ready position the hammer is securely held by the hammer block. Only by deliberately pulling the trigger can the hammer block be disengaged. The tilting action of the barrel excludes firing unless the breech is fully locked. A direct blow to the hammer is impossible, as it is enclosed by the slide and grip. The hammer's energy is transmitted to the primer through a low mass firing pin.
The PF9 is similar to a Glock - the trigger is the safety.
the prosecution said there was other dna which could not exclude tm.
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