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4th of July DUI checkpoint
Liveleak.com ^ | 07/05/2013 | Livelurked

Posted on 07/05/2013 3:32:51 PM PDT by DariusBane

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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9e3_1373034153


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 4thamendment; 4thamendmentissues; checkpoints; donutwatch; govtabuse; policestate; rapeofliberty; tyranny
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To: CSM
So long as it is convenient, then they are conservative, however if they get an opportunity push their particular brand of tyranny that is emotionally appealing for them then they are willing to dump conservative principles.

Yep. It's one of the main reasons I dumped Laura Ingraham, and reject out of hand Mike Huckabee: both are in favor of laws to outlaw smoking pretty much anywhere in public because, gosh darn it, they just hate it so much!

221 posted on 07/08/2013 11:48:14 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Finny

Yet, both of them will complain when the tools used to ban smoking on privately owned propwerty are used to force their churches to marry homosexuals. They will both be incapable of connecting the dots, as will many a FReeper...


222 posted on 07/09/2013 9:05:04 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Ben Mugged
Offended by ridicule?

Maybe.

Better than being offended by facts.

223 posted on 07/09/2013 5:36:08 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: laplata

No. Everyone is not a potential threat — unless they are the hoodlums displaced by Katrina. Cops need to use their brains and eyes instead of their jackboots.


224 posted on 07/09/2013 8:18:59 PM PDT by womanvet (Amnesty for aliens? Do the Roswell critters get to vote?)
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To: womanvet

I understand what you’re saying but they’re dealing with animals. Everyone has to be treated as a potential threat.


225 posted on 07/09/2013 8:22:41 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: elkfersupper

You are defending a person’s right to drive drunk? I am a Libertarian but even I find that ridiculous.


226 posted on 07/10/2013 7:33:58 AM PDT by Ben Mugged (The number one enemy of liberalism is reality.)
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To: Ben Mugged

Define “drunk”, please.


227 posted on 07/10/2013 11:11:00 AM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: elkfersupper

Sitting behind the wheel of a vehicle still smoking with dead children laying in the street. If you were ever an EMT you would know it if you saw it. It is seared into your brain forever.


228 posted on 07/11/2013 10:21:07 AM PDT by Ben Mugged (The number one enemy of liberalism is reality.)
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To: Ben Mugged
Sitting behind the wheel of a vehicle still smoking with dead children laying in the street. If you were ever an EMT you would know it if you saw it. It is seared into your brain forever.

Yup. That would be "reckless driving" on somebody's part, more than likely.

We don't need this whole subset of DWI laws.

229 posted on 07/11/2013 5:27:39 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: elkfersupper

You asked me to define “drunk” and I did. You did not like my definition so you again changed the subject. Do you now want me to define “reckless driving”?


230 posted on 07/11/2013 6:40:22 PM PDT by Ben Mugged (The number one enemy of liberalism is reality.)
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To: Ben Mugged

I don’t see where you ever defined “drunk”.


231 posted on 07/12/2013 9:03:09 AM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: elkfersupper

Drunk is as drunk does.


232 posted on 07/12/2013 10:01:46 AM PDT by Ben Mugged (The number one enemy of liberalism is reality.)
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To: Ben Mugged
Drunk is as drunk does.

So, you are just an outright prohibitionist. You don't care to define what "drunk" is.

That's fine. We're done.

233 posted on 07/12/2013 11:28:22 AM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: elkfersupper

Bye


234 posted on 07/12/2013 1:33:45 PM PDT by Ben Mugged (The number one enemy of liberalism is reality.)
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To: Ben Mugged
FYI, "drunk" was initially defined as .20% blood alcohol level.

It then went to .12%, .10%, then .08% and is now headed for .05%.

At some point, blood alcohol content came to be interpolated from breath alcohol content, which unfortunately uses the same partition rate for every human as a faulty premise.

At some point "driving while intoxicated" became "driving while impaired", resulting in people getting thrown into the DWI grinder and criminal justice system with a 0.00% blood and breath alcohol concentration.

The definition of "impaired" then became something called in most state statutes "impaired to the slightest degree" by the LEO harassing people on the side of the road.

I'm still waiting for the first news story about a driver that is too short or fat or both to work the foot pedals or the steering wheel.

This is all hysteria designed to separate people from their transportation and assets.

235 posted on 07/12/2013 3:16:21 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: elkfersupper

How would you define the limit at which a responsible person can drive? That is, considering my rights also to not be killed by them.


236 posted on 07/12/2013 6:01:40 PM PDT by Ben Mugged (The number one enemy of liberalism is reality.)
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To: Ben Mugged
How would you define the limit at which a responsible person can drive? That is, considering my rights also to not be killed by them.

The point at which they are reckless, at which time they should be stopped and charged with reckless driving.

237 posted on 07/12/2013 6:04:04 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: elkfersupper

So for you, no degree of intoxication is too extreme as long as the driver doesn’t kill anyone? So there can be no preventative measures, only reactive ones?


238 posted on 07/13/2013 4:08:34 PM PDT by Ben Mugged (The number one enemy of liberalism is reality.)
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To: Ben Mugged
So for you, no degree of intoxication is too extreme as long as the driver doesn’t kill anyone? So there can be no preventative measures, only reactive ones?

Yes. In order for there to be a crime, there has to be a victim.

If property or persons are damaged or destroyed or have things of value taken from them, that is a crime.

Everything else is a population control or revenue generation program enforced at gunpoint by government employees and is morally wrong.

239 posted on 07/13/2013 4:17:21 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: elkfersupper

So there can be no preventative measures, only reactive ones? Does that philosophy apply to National Security as well? (Not intended to change subject, only to point out the error in your logic).


240 posted on 07/13/2013 4:30:11 PM PDT by Ben Mugged (The number one enemy of liberalism is reality.)
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