Posted on 07/03/2013 11:00:28 PM PDT by Red Steel
Edited on 07/04/2013 3:10:35 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
George Zimmerman's team plans to put on "a lot of witnesses," defense attorney Mark O'Mara told WKMG-Channel 6 Tuesday night.
Those witnesses will include family members, friends, neighbors and an expert on a timeline for the night Zimmerman fatally shot Trayvon Martin, O'Mara told Tony Pipitone.
(Excerpt) Read more at orlandosentinel.com ...
There are rumblings of a civil lawsuit against Zimmerman if the criminal case doesn’t get him. Do you think there’s any chance he is declared innocent but loses a suit for millions?
The persecution is about to rest and so far they haven’t even provided proof that TM is dead... They haven’t even proven the most basic element of their case.
I think the purpose of that type of metal is to begin conveying to the public that they are a para-military organization, and no long police officers.
That doesn’t mean that TM ever actually touched the gun, only that he tried to get it away by reaching for it.
I never heard him say that. Only that TM 'went for my gun'. While watching (only watched once) I got the impression TM never got to it.
No meaningful probability, no. I believe he'll be acquitted. He won;t ask this judge for a finding of immunity, but he will ask the civil court judge for a hearing and finding of immunity. He'll probably win that, and whoever sued Zimmerman for money damages will have to pay Zimmerman's legal fees, lost income, etc. for suing him.
Perhaps she earned all those medals through an affirmative action program.
The DNA expert found a mix of DNA on both the holster and the slide. He wasn't able to exclude Trayvon Martin as a possible contributor to that DNA.
If the talking heads wanted to say it another way, they could say "DNA found on holster and slide that expert said couldn't be ruled out as Martin's."
Not to be contrary, but IF the ribbons she wore are authorized by her department and were all authorized specifically for her, then she is in the right on wearing them.
To not wear the authorized ribbons on a dress uniform is an infraction of the uniform rules.
If she was following her department’s rulebook, then it is the rulebook we should be criticizing, and not the person following it. Her superiors are to fault - not her.
This is the same prosecution team who couldn't even find DNA on Martin's hands.He must have left it all on Zimmerman's head.
The ribbons are not PD award ribbons. They are ribbons issued by the U.S. Department of Defense. The Sanford PD purchased them used from the local Army-Navy Store.
The officer-ette shilling for the State obviously was not in WW2....by what right does she wear ribbons indicating she was? Have service and valor ribbons worn by vets now become watered down so that emotion and not facts validates the fake and improper wearing of military ribbons and awards?
Please read the last paragraph of the article linked to the above post for more clarification. Thanks.
Leni
I tend to doubt this - unless as a last resort. At this point, if the prosecution rests I would move for dismissal of all charges as unproven. I also doubt this judge will grant such a move.
In the end this will come down to what it always involved: beyond a reasonable doubt. Then - like the Casey Anthony jury - we will have to hope for true American justice.
I am beginning to suspect what I think you are saying: the prosecution is just going through the motions... although there are some troubling contradictions -- like the judge disallowing Zimmerman bringing up Trayvon's mind-set prior to the incident... even bringing his parents into court... different set of rules for the prosecution: everything Zimmerman ever thought negatively is proof he is a conniving murderer, and, oh yeah! Welcome to Trayvon's parents every day, even to appear on the witness stand.
Hmmmmm
The defense will probably put on an abbreviated case recalling Diamond Eugene and Chris Serino, and possibly Ben Crump and Sybrina again, an actual medical examiner and some surprise witnesses, before putting on its experts who will pull all the disparate facts together for the jury who Bernie tried to put into a deep sleep Wednesday with his DNA expert.
I’m not clear how the last paragraph of the article for this thread addresses whether the Sanford PD used military ribbons for their own awards or not.
You are alleging that the officer is a “faker”. Can you definitively provide a link that identifies the ribbons on her uniform are not authorized for the Sanford PD? THAT is the standard for her being a faker, not the fact that the ribbons are appropriated from military designs.
If (and only if) the Sanford PD appropriated the ribbon designs from the military and redesignated them as Sanford PD awards the wearing of the ribbons by this officer are appropriate - provided she is actually authorized to wear them (i.e.: she was given the Sanford PD award represented by each).
To refuse to wear an awarded ribbon is considered insubordination in the military - I would imagine that there is a similar stigma attached to it in police departments. To castigate the woman without knowing for certain that the ribbons do not represent valid Sanford PD awards is the same as insisting she be insubordinate.
However, the apparent fact that the Sanford PD went cheap and used military ribbons is deplorable, and is a worthy target for criticism and even ridicule.
But to castigate a police officer for following the rules as they are laid out by her superiors (again - barring definitive evidence that the ribbons are unauthorized) is ridiculous.
There is an excellent youtube vido of the riots. It is in the stree images of looters. A few even on cameral saying they don’t care they just want. Even fewer actually trying to stop they looters by reason.
And yet Officer Tim Smith did take the gun from him and he didn't leave any DNA on the gun because it is a hard surface.
Please pay attention in class and in court.
The expert said he specifically could not exclude tm’s dna from the dna samples on the holster. IOW the governme can not say tm touched the holster!
In FL in capitol cases anyone over 16 is chaged as an adult. I believe the lowest was 14.
“The expert said he specifically could not exclude tm’s dna from the dna samples on the holster. IOW the governme can not say tm touched the holster!”
So, it’s a win-win for zim. No Martin DNA confirms zim story and also any Martin DNA supports zim story.
In any case, lots of zim blood confirms zim story
no EXCLUSION of martin dna. There was more than just zim dna on the holster.
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