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Live Thread: Egypt Revolution 2.0
Various sources | Wednesday, July 3, 2013 | Kristinn

Posted on 07/03/2013 5:56:34 AM PDT by kristinn

The Egyptian army has set a deadline of 4 p.m. Cairo time for the Muslim Brotherhood government of President Morsi to compromise with the people of Egypt (by stepping down.) Morsi refuses. 18 people were killed and 200 were wounded in clashes at Cairo University last night.

A Washington Post report from Cairo on dueling statements from Morsi and the army:

Waving his hands and shaking his fists in a 45-minute speech on national television late Tuesday, Morsi swore that he was committed to the democratic process that brought him to power and said that any attempts to subvert the constitution were “unacceptable.”

The army, in turn, posted a message to its Facebook page saying: “We swear to God that we will sacrifice even our blood for Egypt and its people, to defend them against any terrorist, radical or fool.”

In his speech, Morsi acknowledged that he had made mistakes during his year in office as Egypt’s first democratically elected president. But he appealed to Egyptians to give him more time to deal with the country’s problems.

Link to originial FR thread from Friday with many amazing photos.


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To: Jeff Head
... what went on in Egypt was a travesty that impacted our nation. This administration supported a Islamic Terrorist organization and helped it come to power...ousting a long time ally who kept the peace with Israel and protected his Coptic Christian minority.
Why should America be involved with the ME in the first place? You seem to be more of a war hawk incensed about lack of involvement by the US government meddling around the globe. America should worry about its own future with a documented track record of a failed recent past covering decades of publick squander and self-delusion.
That new regime was then directly involved with the attack on our consulate and death of Americas there. They also were allowing Coptic Christians to literally be crucified (physically, literally) in their streets, and stoking for war against our ally.
The attacks on American consulates, such as Benghazi, are a result of America's meddling into foreign intrigue. It is a classick response of unwanted foreign meddling, particularly from a nation that is half-way around the world.
So you bet I spoke of that...and am glad to see the Egyptian people and their military turn that lot of scoundrels out and begin arresting them. They set a good example for us and removed a despot in the process.
You are making assumptions which is not unusual for you.
921 posted on 07/04/2013 5:54:56 PM PDT by buckeroo_2013
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To: maggief; onyx; hoosiermama

Heads up

Egypt: Heavy Fire Reported In North Sinai City
July 5, 2013 | 0052 GMT
Witnesses reported on July 4 heavy fire in the Egyptian city of Sheikh Zuweid, North Sinai province, Youm7 reported.


922 posted on 07/04/2013 6:02:05 PM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: crosslink
URGENT:

Violent clashes between the jihadist terrorists and the Egyptian army in the vicinity of El-Arish airport

‏@INAANEWS 8m

Sinai... attackers fired rocket-propelled grenades at the army checkpoints outside the airport, close to the border with the Gaza

News ‏@feedNL 13m

Breaking:

Islamist gunmen open fire on El Arish airport in Egypt's Sinai Peninsula and at 3 military checkpoints..

Christchurch News

Islamist gunmen attack Egyptian airport, army checkpoints: Gunmen have opened fire on El Arish airport

923 posted on 07/04/2013 6:16:42 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3039248/posts?q=1&;page=1
Egyptian Foreign Minister: There was no military coup


924 posted on 07/04/2013 6:19:02 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: crosslink

Time to clean house.


925 posted on 07/04/2013 6:19:32 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: caww

Thanks, the brotherhood is practicing their peaceful protesting again.


926 posted on 07/04/2013 6:19:55 PM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: buckeroo_2013
Why should America be involved anywhere. There is nothing war-hawkish about having a friend who is at peace with your ally and protects their own citizens and desiring that. Being completely uninvolved in topday's world leads to war...being judisiously involved avoids it and promotes more trade. The idea is understanding the difference between the two and for the last several decades (with a couple of ntable exceptions) our leaders have not understood this. Now we have one who is bound and determined to have us involved to the utter detriment and ruin of our nation. Speaking of, and hoping the best for a group or people spitting in the eye of that is very worthwhile to me.

As to Benghazi being the result of our unwanted meddling...I have already explained what the current administration is all about. Indeed, I believe they not onbly caused it, but were directly involved in it up to their elbows and more.

\Speaking out about that is also a worthwhile thing, which I do all the time.

Again, if you do not like it...simple, don't read it. And, if you do, and feel like you have to say something about it...that's fine too. Just be prepared for some a return. So far, your points have made very little, if any logical sense.

I have already indicated that we have an administration who is far worse in this regard than any in recent memory...and I am happy to see a group of people spit in their eye...which is exactly what the Egyptians just did.

927 posted on 07/04/2013 6:23:53 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: caww
Does Obama realize that he is setting up Putin to be Egypt's new best FRiend.
928 posted on 07/04/2013 6:26:09 PM PDT by mware
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To: little jeremiah

Yes...he is a “retread.”

Can’t say why he is acting as he is...in times past we had a decent relationship.

Maybe he’s laying it thick on the sauce or something.


929 posted on 07/04/2013 6:26:18 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: crosslink

Fire exchange between the Egyptian army and armed groups Near Egyptian Rafah after destroying tunnels across the border


930 posted on 07/04/2013 6:29:52 PM PDT by caww
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To: Jeff Head

Sauce might explain it. People do strange and awful things under the influence.


931 posted on 07/04/2013 6:30:23 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: caww

Well, this gives the Egyptian army all the reasons it needs to go after them and eliminate them without any dancing around.


932 posted on 07/04/2013 6:31:45 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: caww

Have you read “When The Music Stops”? - short fiction by our own Matt Bracken? It describes what would be very likely happening when the EBT cards cease filling up and grocery store shelves empty out.

I think (and of course hope) that something akin to Egypt will happen here sooner or later - if/when Zero and his gang step over a line - a line that tells us that there is very little left to lose.


933 posted on 07/04/2013 6:33:51 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: mware

...”Does Obama realize that he is setting up Putin to be Egypt’s new best FRiend.....”

Does he care? He’s not about anything but covering his own buns and the agenda he moves forward...everything else is insignificant....

Putin’s wheeling and dealing ‘right now’ with Iran on trade and Nuclear...he’s intent on solidifying with Iran....as for Egypt...they will do their own thing independant of Russia.

Egypt may have another civil war....but the real issues will be the water rights of the Nile..and that will get very messy...many will die down the road from that.


934 posted on 07/04/2013 6:36:04 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Blocking their exit routes you think. Now time to do some cleanup.


935 posted on 07/04/2013 6:41:38 PM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: little jeremiah

I don’t think he’ll step over the line any more than he continues doing...he’s too busy paying off favors to those who put him in office before he leaves...so he’s going to push hard his agenda.

As said...the US Citizens are still healthy and fat...so little will be done about O. He’ll finish out his term and leave the mess where it lays.....how much yet there will be remains to be seen.

Problem is there’s no one in Washington representing the people now. And they know we won’t mount up...and when we march they simply wave back at us from their windows in Washington...so it’s no threat to them.

So you see...we’re pretty much stuck winging it til he’s out!


936 posted on 07/04/2013 6:42:13 PM PDT by caww
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To: crosslink

No it’s preventing “the beastly” from coming IN to Egypt. Palestinians are supposedly not welcomed now...(hearsay)..have to wait to confirm on the that latter.

On another note...Fireworks will soon begin just two blocks from me...street has people hanging around below my deck....and parking lot nearby filling up to watch from this location. I am lucky...never need to leave my apartment..just sit back with a glass of wine and enjoy the show.


937 posted on 07/04/2013 6:46:20 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Ruh roh.
http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Fatah-calls-on-Palestinians-to-overthrow-Hamas-in-wake-of-Morsis-fall-318792

Fatah calls on Palestinians to overthrow Hamas in wake of Morsi’s fall By KHALED ABU TOAMEH 07/04/2013 20:30

Fatah expresses hope that the ouster of Morsi will aid efforts to end divisions among the Palestinians.

Palestinian Authority leaders on Thursday expressed joy over the downfall of Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi’s regime, with some calling on Palestinians in the Gaza Strip to follow suit and topple the Hamas government.

Palestinian analysts predicted that the collapse of the Muslim Brotherhood regime in Egypt would undermine Hamas, which in the past year has been emboldened by Morsi’s rise to power.

PA President Mahmoud Abbas was one of the first Arab leaders to congratulate the Egyptians on the ouster of Morsi.

In a letter to acting President Adli Mansour, Abbas congratulated him on the appointment, expressing hope that he would fulfill the aspirations of the Egyptian people to “live in freedom, dignity and stability.”

Abbas praised the Egyptian army and its commanders for preserving the country’s security and preventing it from slipping toward the abyss.

Tayeb Abdel Rahim, a top aide to Abbas, saluted the Egyptian army for the “wonderful achievement.”

Referring to Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood, Abdel Rahim hailed the Egyptian army and people for refusing to be intimidated by those who “sow sedition, civil war and sectarianism.”

Jamal Nazzal, a senior Fatah representative, called on Palestinians to overthrow Hamas in the wake of the events in Egypt.

Fatah spokesman Ahmed Assaf expressed hope that the ouster of Morsi would aid efforts to end divisions among the Palestinians.

“We hope that the historic victory of the Egyptian people’s will would help our people get rid of the destructive division and restore national unity,” Assaf said in an indirect reference to Hamas’s control over the Gaza Strip.

Several other Fatah officials expressed hope that Palestinians in the Gaza Strip would wage a revolution against Hamas.

“Now it’s Gaza’s turn to get rid of the Muslim Brotherhood branch,” said one official. “The dark era of political Islam has ended. The era of hypocrisy and lies has ended and Gaza will soon witness its own revolution against Hamas.”

Abdel Rahim Jamous, a Fatahaffiliated political analyst, urged Hamas to seize the opportunity and “return to Palestinian national legitimacy before it’s too late.”

Addressing the Hamas leadership, Jamous said: “You have no future with the Muslim Brotherhood. They have failed even before they started. They are losers. Wake up before it’s too late.”

Palestinian reporters in the Gaza Strip said on Thursday that top Hamas officials seemed to be very worried by the ouster of Morsi.

Unlike the PA leadership, Hamas did not rush to congratulate the Egyptian army and opposition.

But Ahmed Youssef, a senior Hamas official, said his movement was worried not over the fall of Morsi’s regime, but over the possibility that events could lead to bloodshed in Egypt.

The “whole world is hoping to see stability in Egypt,” Youssef told the Ma’an news agency.

The crisis in Egypt had already resulted in a shortage of basic goods in the Gaza Strip because of the closure of the Rafah border crossing, he said.

Palestinians said that the Egyptian army had beefed up its presence along the border with the Gaza Strip in the past few days.

Egyptian troops on Thursday destroyed six smuggling tunnels under the border, they said.

The Egyptian authorities have also imposed severe restrictions on the movement of Palestinians through the Rafah terminal, they added.

There are unconfirmed reports that Cairo has also issued an order banning Hamas leaders and members from entering Egypt.

Ehab Ghissin, a spokesman for the Hamas government, condemned as “trivial” Fatah’s call for an Egyptian-style revolution in the Gaza Strip.

Ghissin said that Fatah’s calls were intended to cover-up the continued PA security crackdown against Hamas supporters in the West Bank.


938 posted on 07/04/2013 6:46:35 PM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: caww

Any truth to this reports?

Egypt: Military Aircraft Launched In Sinai
July 5, 2013 | 0145 GMT
Three military aircraft took off from El Arish airport early July 5 after a string of attacks in Sinai, Youm7 reported. The aircraft are seeking those behind attacks in El Arish, Rafah and Sheikh Zuweid


939 posted on 07/04/2013 6:59:54 PM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: All

In case there was any doubt:

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/169611

On Tuesday, Egypt’s military boosted its presence in the Sinai Peninsula near the border with Gaza.

The IDF confirmed that Egypt had boosted its military presence in the Sinai, where the 1979 peace treaty between the two countries imposed strict controls on deployments, but said the action had been coordinated with Israeli leaders.


940 posted on 07/04/2013 6:59:56 PM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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