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'Days Of Rambo Are Over': Pentagon Details Women's Move To Combat
npr.org ^ | June 18, 2013 | Bill Chappell

Posted on 06/23/2013 4:17:34 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

Women in America's armed services will have new options for what units they can join in coming years, the Pentagon says. The military said in January that it will end its combat exclusion that set a minimum size for units in which women could be deployed; the limit kept many women away from front-line combat units. The shift means women could join elite forces such as the Army Rangers and Navy SEALs.

Depending on the job, women could begin training to join combat units in the next one to three years, according to several military officers who spoke at a Pentagon briefing Tuesday afternoon. Integration into special forces units is expected to take the longest.

"The days of Rambo are over," said Maj. Gen. Sacolick, of the U.S. Special Operations Command Force Management Directorate. Noting that special operations groups are looking for people who can learn other languages and be deployed in a variety of situations, he added, "The defining characteristic of our operators is their intellect."

The change is expected to come slowly, with women not expected to begin training to join ground front-line combat units until at least 2014 or later. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel has set a deadline of Jan. 1, 2016 for all positions to be open. Neither Hagel nor the top-ranking officers in military's branches attended Tuesday's media briefing.

Branches of the service are developing gender-neutral tests that will be tailored to their units, and they may request a special exception to the policy shift if they find that their female members can't perform the duties of a specific job.

For instance, Marine Lt. Col. Jon M. Aytes spoke of a scenario in which a woman in an armored unit would be expected to be able to reload a 55-pound shell into the gun's breach, with little opportunity for leverage.

When asked later if the military would develop separate standards for men and women, Aytes and the other officers said no. Aytes noted that tanks don't have one rack of shells for men, and another for women.

In the case of special operations, men who are already serving in those units will be given a survey that's designed to gauge how they feel about women joining their ranks. It will also analyze "the social science impacts... of integrating women into small, elite teams that operate in remote, austere environments," according to the submitted in March.

"At this point, no decisions have been made," Gen. Sacolick said, of how women might be integrated into the Rangers, SEALS, Marine Special Operators, and other units. "Let me make that clear: No decisions have been made."

Saying that he had spoken to colleagues at other services about the matter, Sacolick added, "I can assure you, we are not predisposed to any course of action."

The major challenge, Sacolick says, is not how the female service members might perform on physical tests — he said he had been impressed by the physical abilities of female recruits. Instead, the largest hurdle could be handling the social and cultural changes, he said.

The news comes months after the Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marines submitted their plans for including women in ground combat positions. As , the change could "open up more than 200,000 positions in the military" to women.

"I remain confident that we will retain the trust and confidence of the American people by opening positions to women, while ensuring that all members entering these newly opened positions can meet the standards required to maintain our warfighting capability," in May, after the branches of the service had submitted their plans. He told them, "I appreciate your efforts to methodically and deliberately remove gender-restrictive barriers."


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To: Tailgunner Joe

Yeah.
In the bad old days of “Rambo”—we actually tried to WIN wars.
Not any more, evidently.


21 posted on 06/23/2013 5:31:33 AM PDT by Flintlock ("The redcoats are coming" -- TO SEIZE OUR GUNS!!--Paul Revere)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

So much for the days when we actually won wars.


22 posted on 06/23/2013 5:38:12 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: jsanders2001

Enemy snipers will target women first with the intent to wound them and draw their would be rescuers out to save them.

As hard as it will be to watch a man bleed out in such a scenario, who will be able to sit still when a woman is screaming for help as her male counterparts watch her die?

Expect more American casualties.


23 posted on 06/23/2013 5:40:01 AM PDT by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
If "the days of Rambo are over" why is it we need Special Forces?????

Idiots. sigh.

24 posted on 06/23/2013 5:42:54 AM PDT by Thom Pain (U.S. Constitution is a CONTRACT!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The only way this works is for a lowering of physical standards to accomodate women, which is something they “claim” they wont do. Stand by.


25 posted on 06/23/2013 5:44:00 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Chode

The upper body strength is deceiving...if not plastic in nature...


26 posted on 06/23/2013 5:56:32 AM PDT by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html - A real life experience book about the war in Iraq)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Rambettes, step up please. Amazons welcome.


27 posted on 06/23/2013 6:05:31 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

This is just so wrong every way. They will be compromising the effectiveness of every unit in the theater of operation.
I despise BO and his minions and what they are doing to this country.


28 posted on 06/23/2013 6:07:46 AM PDT by libertymaker
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Equality of the sexes in the military services is being achieved through court decisions and bureaucratic policy. Should there be another need for a large scale draft similar to past wars, women will be in the “lottery” on an equal basis as men. What needs to be determined is what to do with transgered individuals - drafted or medically excluded from the manpower pool? What a mess these ultra leftist policies will achieve at the altar of “equality.”


29 posted on 06/23/2013 6:08:10 AM PDT by mohresearcher
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To: BCW

wow....the Muslims, can stay here on earth and get their “virgins” on the battle-field....see the Lesbians on parade, the Lesbo army is on parade....all this tells me that we are running out of “manpower”


30 posted on 06/23/2013 6:10:02 AM PDT by B212
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Everyone knows women can’t fight and that they can’t live in the field but this has nothing to do with combat effectiveness or winning wars or anything like that. This is pure social engineering. This is about destroying the natural social roles of men and women. This is about creating genderless drones for the communistic New World Order.


31 posted on 06/23/2013 6:26:08 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto
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To: Gen.Blather

I find homosexuals to be very depressive. They are mentally deviant in many aspects.


32 posted on 06/23/2013 6:27:20 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

They won’t do the most obvious thing to find out if women in combat will work—simply form a number of all female combat units from women who meet their standards and see how they perform.

Freegards


33 posted on 06/23/2013 6:36:44 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: jsanders2001

The IDF did this years ago and finally learned it was a mistake to do so. Let’s see how long this social experiment will last.


34 posted on 06/23/2013 6:36:44 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (IÂ’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: wita

And Einstein should have been in SF./s


35 posted on 06/23/2013 6:39:47 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (IÂ’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Flintlock

You are correct. After WWII the Feds haven’t been that interested in winning any wars or conflicts.


36 posted on 06/23/2013 6:42:14 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (IÂ’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: BCW
no plastic there... Page-3 girls are all silicon free, it's in their application testament and a requirement for employment 8^)
37 posted on 06/23/2013 6:45:51 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: broken_arrow1
What could go wrong?


38 posted on 06/23/2013 6:51:35 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Electorate data confirms Resolute Conservative voted for Soetoro)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The new military won’t be trained to kill foreign enemies and break things.

They will be trained to distribute birth control, set up Planned Parenthood centers, build and staff child care facilities, build mosques and do Muslim Outreach.

The only training they will recieve in the use of force and violence is how to combat and dominate Bitter Clingers here in the USA.


39 posted on 06/23/2013 6:59:49 AM PDT by Iron Munro (From nobody to senator, to Conservative savior,)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

This really needs to be stopped ASAP. Congress should have some say-so, no matter what the Regime thinks.


40 posted on 06/23/2013 7:01:38 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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