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Marco Rubio's Big Problem: Explaining His Immigration Shift
NPR ^ | 21 June 2013 | Frank James

Posted on 06/21/2013 5:28:44 PM PDT by Theoria

Sen. Marco Rubio has a problem. He has transformed from conservative hero to suspect in the eyes of many on the political right because he now supports "a path to citizenship" for people unlawfully in the U.S. after forcefully opposing it in 2010 when he was running for U.S. Senate.

The senator from Florida, who's considered to be a potential Republican presidential candidate, has tried to gloss over the shift. Unfortunately, he's getting called on it. By Factcheck.org. And by many conservatives, like those who booed his name when it was mentioned at a Tea Party rally this week on Capitol Hill. Or Ann Coulter, who said Friday the Senate shouldn't take up immigration until it becomes a Rubio-free body. Former Republican Rep. Allen West is even saying he might give Rubio a primary challenge over his immigration shift.

If Rubio does decide to make the run for president, he will certainly be attacked not only as a flip-flopper but for supporting a policy that's anathema to many conservatives. So, what's a senator to do?

Rubio has a few options, though they all have risks. Here are some possible approaches:

The people made me do it: Rubio could always say he decided to change his position to more accurately reflect the desires of his Florida constituency.

A Quinnipiac University poll released this week indicated that 58 percent of those surveyed agreed with the "path to citizenship" approach while 12 percent said people in the U.S. unlawfully should be allowed to stay, but not given citizenship. Only 24 percent were of the deport or self-deport persuasion.

Even among Florida Republicans, nearly half, 47 percent, supported a citizenship path with 15 percent being willing to let those here unlawfully stay but without allowing them to become citizens.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; allenwest; amnesty; florida; illegal; immigration; rubio
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To: Theoria

Marco Rubio’s problem is that he’s Marco Rubio.


41 posted on 06/21/2013 6:44:01 PM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Diego1618

On which page in the US Constitution it says “a natural born citizen is one whose parents are US citizens”?

I had to memorize the entire US constitution and all amendments for my citizenship test back in 1970.


42 posted on 06/21/2013 6:45:25 PM PDT by entropy12 (Even tho Obama is now a lame duck, with 2014 House majority, he will be a dangerously socialist!)
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To: Theoria
Marco Rubio's Big Problem: Explaining His Immigration Shift

Marco Rubio's Big Problem: He's a two trick pony, clean cut & Cuban!

43 posted on 06/21/2013 6:47:01 PM PDT by varon (Down with tyranny)
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To: Theoria
MARCO MARCO MARCO...PUH LEEZE google ANN COULTER/IMMIGRATION AND GO OVER EVERY damn HIT...school yourself in common sense...then come back and let's talk...Let's talk about your conversion to a correct common sense answer to this crucial issue to THE FUTURE OF AMERICA.


44 posted on 06/21/2013 6:47:58 PM PDT by jimsin
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To: Jim Robinson

Did you see the poll data? 47% of Florida Republicans support a path to citizenship. He will be a senator as long as he wants....but it will be without my vote.


45 posted on 06/21/2013 6:48:27 PM PDT by jch10 (The greatest threat to America is the Democrats.)
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To: Theoria
The NSA made him an offer he couldn't refuse.

Somebody did! He damn near broke his own neck when he made that sudden left turn.

46 posted on 06/21/2013 6:49:04 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Theoria

He wants to catch up with Christie on the “fool them with the conservative speak” and then go full bore RINO once you have climbed under the blanket of socialism.


47 posted on 06/21/2013 6:58:48 PM PDT by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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To: entropy12
On which page in the US Constitution it says “a natural born citizen is one whose parents are US citizens”?

It doesn't say that a "Natural Born Citizen" is one whose parents are U.S. Citizens at the time of his birth. But...it says this....peculiar only to the presidency:

U.S. Constitution [Article II, Section 1, Paragraph 4]

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

When the framers wrote the Constitution this "Natural Born" provision was commonly known the same way we, today.....know that the "World Series" pertains to baseball....and the "Super Bowl" pertains to football. One does not have to say.....the "Super Bowl Football Game" because everyone knows that the "Super Bowl"......IS Football! By including "Football Game"....you're just being redundant!

"The Law of Nations", written mid 18th century (1758) was the initial description of the term, "Natural Born". It was penned by "Emmerich de Vattel" and read by statesmen throughout Europe and the Colonies and quoted frequently by the framers. Here is the pertinent section, #212:

“The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”

This term, "Natural Born Citizen" was commonly accepted throughout the world as what the above paragraph indicates the definition to be. It has only been recently (last 50 years or so) that this definition has come into question. This is due to the fact that the U.S. Constitution is no longer taught in our public schools.

48 posted on 06/21/2013 7:19:24 PM PDT by Diego1618 (Put "Ron" on the Rock!)
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To: ASA Vet

Sorry........I meant to ping you to post #48.


49 posted on 06/21/2013 7:25:25 PM PDT by Diego1618 (Put "Ron" on the Rock!)
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To: Theoria

Every damned one of them succumbs to the DC lobotomy given time. Plus a few hefty checks from the OBL in this case.


50 posted on 06/21/2013 7:28:51 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: headstamp 2

Better we found out now how Rubio really thinks before we made him a candidate for Prez. Glad he outed himself.


51 posted on 06/21/2013 7:39:56 PM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: DManA

even trey gowdy ?


52 posted on 06/21/2013 7:40:21 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Swine Piss be upon Obama, and his Child-Rapist False Prophet Mohammed)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Rubio is a political wind vane, he’s a republican Bill Clinton.


53 posted on 06/21/2013 7:42:16 PM PDT by Private_Sector_Does_It_Better (I AM ANDREW BREITBART)
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To: Jim Robinson
I truly believe in the invasion of the body snatchers after
seeing Rubio lay down with Harry Reid,,, and then speaking to the American people as though anyone can actually believe one word that comes out of his mouth.
Rubio is damaged goods.

He that lieth down with Dogs, shall rise up with Fleas,
Poor Richard's Almanack

54 posted on 06/21/2013 7:51:58 PM PDT by stormryter (How much is enough.)
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To: DManA
He has no “problem”. He’s set for life.

To which end, which "special interest" might have the most at stake in this immigration imbroglio?

Would it be a.) business, b.) the unions, c.) the La Raza sorts, d.) the Democrat party...or e.) the drug cartels.

And which side would the drug cartels be on? And how much money do they have to spend? And where do you suppose they are spending it?

And that, my friends, is the untold story of this particular political conflict: Where is the drug money going?

55 posted on 06/21/2013 7:52:24 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: workerbee

Rubio has become a classic, and all too typical American traitor. Bob


56 posted on 06/21/2013 7:53:08 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("You have the most appealing surface I have seen. Bring it over here. Lay it down by me." Al Stewart)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Gowdy, along with a few dozen others, is a patriot, facing off against several hundred traitors. Bob


57 posted on 06/21/2013 7:56:00 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("You have the most appealing surface I have seen. Bring it over here. Lay it down by me." Al Stewart)
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To: okie01

Rubio is a corrupt piece of crap. He should be in jail, not in an exalted leadership position.


58 posted on 06/21/2013 7:57:02 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Theoria

Rubio could try runing for President of Mexico. Or Cuba.


59 posted on 06/21/2013 7:58:39 PM PDT by Pelham (Deportation is the law. When it's not enforced you get California)
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To: abclily

“Did he get blackmailed like Justice Roberts?”

No. He was already an Amnesty pusher back when he was in the Florida government.

He is just a weasel who concealed his past and fooled a lot of conservatives. We are lucky that he outed himself.


60 posted on 06/21/2013 8:04:32 PM PDT by Pelham (Deportation is the law. When it's not enforced you get California)
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