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Four Jews Detained at Temple Mount, Accused of Bowing
Virtual Jerusalem ^ | 6/19/2013

Posted on 06/19/2013 4:22:27 PM PDT by Former Fetus

Four Jewish Israelis were detained by police during a visit to the Temple Mount for praying at the site.

The four, identified as teenagers, were arrested Wednesday and taken for questioning. Police told the Times of Israel that the four prostrated themselves on the mount.

A rabbi also visiting the site told Israel National News that the four did not bow down while on the Temple Mount.

Jews generally are not permitted to pray or bring any ritual objects to the Temple Mount, which is considered Judaism's holiest site, in order to avoid confrontation with Muslim worshipers at the Al-Aksa Mosque, Islam's third holiest site. The site is overseen by the Muslim Wakf, the Muslim religious administration charged with managing the Temple Mount site.


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To: jjotto; schm0e; RummyChick

This is a long tradition - it is a ruling by the Rabbis, going back centuries - till at least the time of the Crusades.

Jews are not allowed to approach the site which belonged to the Temple, apparently because they might offer prayers in the wrong place, or tread on the Holy of Holys. This ruling is expected to stay in place until the Messiah returns.

Israeli rabbinical councils have reaffirmed the “no prayer at Temple Mount” several times.


21 posted on 06/19/2013 6:41:12 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: BlackVeil

That’s a little different question that concerns being on the Temple Mount at all, not about prayers.

http://jcpa.org/jpsr/s99-yc.htm
“THE POLITICAL ROLE OF THE ISRAELI CHIEF RABBINATE IN THE TEMPLE MOUNT QUESTION”


22 posted on 06/19/2013 6:45:33 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: BlackVeil

I see. I thought it was a concession to Islam. How little I know.


23 posted on 06/19/2013 6:51:26 PM PDT by schm0e ("we are in the midst of a coup.")
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To: BlackVeil
This ruling is expected to stay in place until the Messiah returns.

Returns?

24 posted on 06/19/2013 9:48:25 PM PDT by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: houeto

Sorry - returns is the wrong word. A slip of the pen. I should say, until the Messiah arrives. This is a Rabbinical ruling.


25 posted on 06/19/2013 10:00:57 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: SkyDancer

“Jews from all countries, and as well as tourists of other religious backgrounds, go to pray at the wall, where many people believe that one immediately has the “ear of God.”

I understand and appreciate your sentiment, but Jerusalem and its Temple were destroyed by both the bloody civil war within the city and the war with Rome without. It represents the destruction of a people, nation, religion, and a way of life. It’s a sad, tragic story that need not have happened if that generation living within its walls had heeded their last prophet. That compounds the tragedy.

“God’s ear” is attuned to those who humble themselves before Him, wherever they are.

All may freely come into the Holy of Holies, as it has been for 2,000 years. The Temple represented a wall of separation between Gentile and Jew and between God and mankind. Jesus Christ tore down that wall. And lest you think I’m anti-Jewish: I am not. Jesus was a Jew and I follow Him. I wish we all did.


26 posted on 06/19/2013 11:59:19 PM PDT by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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To: BlackVeil

“Jews are not allowed to approach the site which belonged to the Temple, apparently because they might offer prayers in the wrong place, or tread on the Holy of Holys. This ruling is expected to stay in place until the Messiah returns.”

The first time Messiah came, few listened and He was crucified for the sins of the world. He returned in judgment in 70 AD, using the armies of Rome to execute that judgment, just as He foretold before His death.

He told both His disciples and the religious leaders that He would send messengers to the “lost sheep of Israel”, but that the religious leaders would persecute them; drive them from the synagogues and kill them. He said He would hold those in that generation responsible. And He did so, just as God had done as recorded in II Chronicles 36:15-22. Instead of using Babylon and Nebuchadnezzar, Christ used Rome and Titus. The parallels are all there for people to see if they are interested.


27 posted on 06/20/2013 12:20:27 AM PDT by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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To: Stingray

The Temple had each block torn down in 70 AD, but Jesus Christ didn’t return in 70 AD. 2 different prophetic events in eschatology. Many different interpretations, but He will return.


28 posted on 06/20/2013 12:26:11 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr

“The Temple had each block torn down in 70 AD, but Jesus Christ didn’t return in 70 AD. 2 different prophetic events in eschatology. Many different interpretations, but He will return.”

Would you like to start a thread to discuss it?

His parousia (presence) was a coming in judgment, just as the Father came against nations in the OT.

Everything Jesus Christ did on earth and after He rose, including His coming in judgment upon Jerusalem in 70 AD, vindicated His claim that He is both fully human and fully divine: God incarnate.

New Jerusalem has come down and its gates are open to “whosoever will may come.”

But don’t take my word for it. Read II Chronicles 36:15-22 then read Isaiah 5:1-7. Then you can read those parallel passages in Matthew 21 and 23, to name a few. His “coming in the clouds” was after the same manner God of the OT came in the clouds in judgment against nations. Isaiah 19:1 being a typical example.


29 posted on 06/20/2013 2:11:58 AM PDT by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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30 posted on 06/20/2013 8:27:34 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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To: SkyDancer

That’s not the mount.

I intend to get arrested here one day.


31 posted on 06/20/2013 9:03:15 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Former Fetus; windcliff; stylecouncilor

Fear of offending muslims. What a crock. They’d better hope I never make it up there. I’d offend their asses alright.


32 posted on 06/20/2013 10:36:49 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Jewbacca

Please bring a few thousand friends with you.


33 posted on 06/20/2013 11:28:58 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein)
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To: Jewbacca

P.S. I am advocating mass civil disobedience to an unjust law.


34 posted on 06/20/2013 11:30:09 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Former Fetus.
Jews generally are not permitted to pray or bring any ritual objects to the Temple Mount, which is considered Judaism's holiest site, in order to avoid confrontation with Muslim worshipers at the Al-Aksa Mosque, Islam's third holiest site.
The Islamic infestation of the Temple Mount will have to be cleared. The best time will be after the next big war against Israel, after the defeat of the muzzie armies.


35 posted on 06/20/2013 9:21:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: sf4dubya

I am not sure what you are referencing.


37 posted on 06/24/2013 8:49:03 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca

For a second there I thought it said, “Bowling”.


38 posted on 06/24/2013 8:51:59 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

“For a second there I thought it said, “Bowling””

Well, there is a long flat area by the pagan temple currently occupying the top of the mount.

A good game of 9 pins would be less heretical than what goes on there now.


39 posted on 06/24/2013 8:55:42 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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