Posted on 06/14/2013 5:02:43 AM PDT by Kaslin
BTW, that 'within the family' bit is a clear throwback to tribalism
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Totalitarianism in all it’s forms is EVIL. Progressivism, Socialism, Marxism, Fascism, Communism, Dictatorship. ALL EVIL.
The Left’s argument is that the “right people” have not tried their plan of government yet.
Great article. While I don’t self-identify as a Libertarian, I find most of their beliefs to be on-the-level. I also agree that since “Libertarianism” as an ethos has never truly been tried, we really should consider an implementation instead of bemoaning it as anarchistic.
As far as “rights” go, as ensconced in our Constitution, the Founders truly did believe in the self-sufficiency of the American people, and if that means that they’re out there getting stoned, firing machine guns into mountains, and surviving off of the land, what business does government have telling them they can’t? Are they harming anyone? Are they costing taxpayers money? Are they endangering anyone but themselves? That, my friends, is a right. If it can’t be taken away by men but could mean your own death or maiming, we jokingly call that a “Darwin Award Candidate,” but that truly is the idea of a right granted by God. Let them thin the herd naturally.
“You know what else is a complete failure? Time travel. After all, it’s never succeeded anywhere!”
Anywhere when?
Lately, I get the feeling that no one can ever be absolutely sure of anything.
You have to remember, mua, Libertarianism does not specific require or otherwise reference a deity. They are agnostic for all intents and purposes. You’re talking about Christian traditions wherein life is sacred, something that most of us have understood in one form or another.
That’s one big reason I don’t self-identify as a Libertarian. I believe in the sanctity of life, and while they don’t implicitly deny that sanctity, they don’t explicitly proclaim it either.
The true political spectrum defines hard left as the "totalitarian state" and the hard right as "Anarchy".
The basis of this is personal freedom versus the all powerful controlling leftist totalitarian state in it's many incarnations, including fascism, socialism and communism. The state of complete and total freedom, where there is no law and no controlling governing authority is the state of anarchy.
The centrist position is a constitutionally governed republic - the equal rule of law for all. This is the conservative position. Not too much government power, and just enough to prevent a breakdown of society leading to complete anarchy.
Libertarianism is a valid political position as it offsets the socialist left. However as a political model it lacks the cohesive force necessary to assemble proper governance. It is the party of "GET OFF MY LAWN" and the political equivelant to herding cats. That's why there are no true libertarian states, IMHO.
The left has a much better chance of assembling a coordinated political effort, there's always someone trying to control others, so there's no shortage of corrupt candidates for leaders, even if it is over a cliff. Thus, the obama regime.
We need to go back to our FOUNDING PRINCIPLES and if you or anyone else wants to live under LIBERALtarianism or communism or sharia... go somewhere else. We must have a religious and moral society and the “if it feels good do it” philosophy of libertarians will fail us as miserably as the liberal cancer that is eating us alive today. If I have to give my life for Freedom and Liberty... it will be in honor of Washington, Hale, Jefferson and men of that caliber and their vision of America and what she stands for.
LLS
I don't know about that .... many mornings I wake up and have the distinct feeling I'm back in the late 1970's experiencing the failures of the Carter Administration all over again.
Dunno. I always figured Hong Kong was pretty libertarian. Even the PRC doesn’t fool with it much, ‘cause it makes ‘em so much money.
Very well stated. I hate to admit it but at the age of 59 I’ve become completely lost in this “Political Spectrum” business. And my wife is even more lost. Seems when I was in school they taught the Political Spectrum as a circle with Centrist Capitalist Democracy at the twelve o’clock, Republicans at the 1:00 o’clock and Democrats at 11:00. Socialists were at 9:00 and Conservatives were at 3:00. Communists were at 7:00 and Fascists were at 5:00.
Note: I don’t recall Anarchists or Nihlists anywhere on the clock.
My problem with all this is that “Progressives” weren’t on the clock and yet, while they speak of themselves as being Liberal, i.e. 9:00 o’clock, they behave like Fascists. Its gotten very confusing to me.
Finally I would add that the pure Libertarian state will never happen because the World is run by a global elite which must exercize at a minimum, a modicum of control over its subjects. And it appears, since the days of the Rockefellers and now of course, the Rockefellers/Rothschilds/Krupps, Ford Foundation etc., they seek to maximise control rather than loosen the reigns.
And--it is dependent upon the capitalist world outside Sweden for its existence and its economic stability.
These United States started out as a Libertarian experiment. Communist are ever patient, and through time (i.el, the frog on slow boil), always, always manage to find a way to get their camel’s nose in the tent.
The U.S. Constitution was constructed in such a way as to slow progressive’s eventual encroachment, but Progressives have taken advantage of the Interstate Commerce Act as it was never intended. Now American is gone forever. Only secession will begin the Libertarian experiment again, and new barriers must be constructed to stymie these bastards from their power crazed, Godless wanton control of the populace.
Libertarianism ain’t that great either. Most Libertarians I met are rigid ideologues. Either you’re 100% for them or your against them. They do not tolerate dissent in the Party ranks. It’s like talking to die-hard Marxists but in reverse. They will never succeed as a 3rd Party since they could never accept compromise. I spent 1 year at Hillsdale when it was dominated by Libertarians, I was denounced as a Cuban Communist because I argued that it’s ok for government to pay for roads. The Libertarian Red Guards would harass me all over the campus and they would hold group sessions in classrooms to discuss my so-called rabid communist viewpoints. Even some professors got in on the act by explaining in their lectures how government-funded roles can lead all drivers down the path of serfdom.
And therein lies the crux of the conflict between the Left and the Right in the USA and the rest of the world today.
Extreme libertarianism is as ludicrous as any other extremist political philosophy. But applied in moderation — the way the Founders had in mind — it is a glorious compromise between community and individual, with ample respect for both and a clear commitment to the latter over the former.
There has never been a government that has not increased in power at the expense of its citizens. The Founders were smart enough to perceive that andtried their best to hold it in check . But they assumed both a moral populace and a moral administration, which obviously did not anticipate the sociopathic corruption of men like barack obama and bill clinton.
Great article. I’ve long been bugged by the notion that the march to totalitarianism and slavery is “progress” and why any sane person would buy into it.
There has never been a government that has not increased in power at the expense of its citizens. The Founders were smart enough to perceive that andtried their best to hold it in check ...
...fine as is...
But they assumed both a moral populace and a moral administration...
...if they assumed a moral administration, does that not contradict your prior point? Clearly, with checks and balances, they assumed just the opposite...
did not anticipate the sociopathic corruption of men like barack obama and bill clinton.
...true of course, but intellectual honesty demands the acknowledgement of political corruption preceding both these goofballs...
Hey LLS, c’mon man, you know me. I’ve never espoused any of the so-called virtues of Libertarianism. I’m a Constitutional Conservative through and through and completely agree with you. Our Founders knew that a faith in God and a morality in the same vein is crucial to our survival.
We’ve strayed so far.
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