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To: stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Lakeshark; Alaska Wolf

I think the issue with Sarah Palin is that so many Freepers look at her and see “Sarah” instead of seeing “Politician”. And she IS a politician, after all, playing the game.

We aren’t in that game - and the people that put themselves in the middle of it eventually figure out how to twist the rules of game to their best advantage, not ours. And they get GOOD at it out of survival instinct, or they quit and go back to where they came from.

All of us out here WANT to believe in the folks that we see as our standard-bearer, and its very, very difficult to accept when the so-called standard-bearers show themselves to be just another politician playing both sides against the middle.

And it swings back and forth day after day - look at Rand Paul. He steps up, does his filibuster, and we’re applauding the guy - “He’s the ONE!!! Look at him GO!!!” etc., ect., A couple days later, he says something that folks disagree with, and suddenly he’s personna non grata instantly, and here we go again...

We’ve been so boned, bent-over and screwed, time after time by these people - people that we elect and/or expect to be opposition -(See Boehner, John, Toomey, Pat, etc) - that we’ll overlook things even though it’s right in our faces, just for the off-chance that someone actually IS who they portray themselves to be.

I admit I’m biased towards Mrs. Palin; as I’ve said before, I like her unabashed Americanism, it resonates with me as I’m sure it does with a lot of people. But that’s Sarah the citizen; Sarah the politician is different, and you don’t get to be a Governor without being a politician above all else.

But legalizing people who break into the country, take advantage of our tolerance, generosity, and compassion and then basically spit on my people, my culture, my heritage, and all that I hold dear and then try to force me to accept is flat-out wrong and unacceptable. If that’s what she - and Rubio, and others - is supporting, in the misguided hope that these foreigners will somehow magically vote Republican, then I can’t support her.

Like SJB said, RE supporting McCain:, yeah, I get that as well, and it goes back to what I said about playing the game. He put her on the national stage, so she probably feels she owes him. But - there comes a point where THAT debt has been paid off, and I think it’s long passed. McCain is wrong on so many points, and has shown himself to be nothing more than a Democrat tool that any further support of him just damages her credibility.

D-1, you said we should our own people to standards; I agree. A long time ago I said out here “No More RINOs”. I meant it. While I certainly don’t see Mrs Palin as a RINO, I will oppose her when I believe she is wrong, and support her when I believe her to be right.

On immigration, if she supports legalizing criminal behavior and rewarding those people with citizenship - and it IS a reward - she is absolutely wrong.

That’s about all I can say on it. I’ll leave further debate to ya’ll fine gentlemen.


257 posted on 06/15/2013 6:28:12 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale
Interesting and good post.

It comes down to this for most of us discussing on this thread: This immigration bill sucks. It won't help America be better, rather it will do the opposite. It's a game changer.

I've pointed out repeatedly that Palin has NOT come out in favor of this bill, and that's a fact. Others have, but she has not.

I've also said that if she comes out swinging for Ryan and Rubio's bill, it will change my support for her, and it will, so strong is my opinion on this bill. Unfortunately there are some posters here that won't be able to change their minds if the opposite were to occur.

258 posted on 06/15/2013 6:46:57 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: NFHale

NFHale, I applaud your comments. I appreciated it, and wouldn’t change much of it at all if I were writing it.

My problem with Palin is this. If I were honest about her down home persona, it gets somewhat grating to me at times. I tried watching her Alaska series and stopped watching half way through.

If she were simply a public figure as in a personality, I could take it or leave it. She has some good qualities. I enjoy hearing her roll out a good line. Over time her voice started to grate on me, and I’ll admit that I can’t listen to her for long presentations. Still, that’s me, and I think she does have some good things to say.

People talk about what she owes McCain. That seems to be the big quandary. I submit that she owes the nation far far more, and McCain nothing at all. He is a vile man unfit for public office. That is all that needs to be said on the subject. We all know it. We simply ignore it, because he picked her.

Listen to me closely folks, McCain picked Palin for one reason only. He realized it would benefit him. He didn’t do her any favors. He endorsed his opponent. He allowed his staff to trample on Palin. He allowed his own daughter to do it. John McCain respects nothing about Sarah Palin. He used her and abused her.

Palin needs to figure out what she owes the nation, the people that support her, and their progeny’s future.

Anything else, is secondary. She doesn’t owe the illegal immigrant a damned thing. None of us do.

We owe our nation the loyalty to make sure it goes on into the future as healthy as it can be. And allowing over 100 million illegals and their relatives to remain here or come here and fester in the wound they have inflicted, is unacceptable to those who truly love this nation.

End of Rant

NFHale, this was not written to give you a hard time. I truly liked what you posted, and was serious when I said I would change very little of it if I were to write it. Good job.


262 posted on 06/15/2013 9:59:17 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Now playing... [ * * * Manchurian Candidate * * * ], limited engagement, 8 years...)
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To: NFHale
, if she supports legalizing criminal behavior

What is it exactly that you fail to understand about "deport them"?

263 posted on 06/15/2013 10:45:29 AM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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