First verified lie from Ed Snowden

blackfive.net ^ | 6-12-2013 | Uncle Jimbo

[P-Marlowe]

The only question that needs to be answered right now is whether or not the NSA has been spying on every single American Citizen?

So far all indications are that the answer to that question is YES.

Also, if Snowden lie about his credentials and could still get a job monitoring every single American’s private e-mails, text messages, Face Book posts, Google searches.... Then God only knows how many terrorists, unfriendly governments and blackmailers have the same access.

Right now all I want to know is how much has the government been spying and how long it has been going on and whether John Roberts was blackmailed into approving Obamacare.

[dforest]

LOL, ain’t that the truth. The military can’t even provide all vets with their DD-214 because of a fire a long time ago.

[Jane Long]

Okay.

Who gave the orders to stand down in Benghazi and where was 0 that entire night?

[babygene]

“I don’t know. But if he’ll lie about one thing, it is more than likely he’ll lie about others.”

And I guess you’ve never lied about anything... I would guess he has a lot more guts and more honer than you ever did.

Maybe he could be lying about working for/with the NAS as well.

[PieterCasparzen]

From the Guardian piece:

In 2003, he enlisted in the US army and began a training program to join the Special Forces. Invoking the same principles that he now cites to justify his leaks, he said: "I wanted to fight in the Iraq war because I felt like I had an obligation as a human being to help free people from oppression".

He did not say he was in the special forces. He said he begain a training program to join.

[MHGinTN]

Helping the regime and media to assassinate this man’s name thus redirecting attention away from the criminality of the regime is SOP. Sad to see freepers jumping in to help the enemies of we the people.

[Blood of Tyrants]

Does that make the information he leaked any less valid or is this just an extension of the smear campaign of the Clinton administration?

[P-Marlowe]

I don't know. But if he'll lie about one thing, it is more than likely he'll lie about others.

And I suppose you have never lied about anything?

[Bronzewound]

But if he'll lie about one thing, it is more than likely he'll lie about others.

If he has lied about what the government is doing, then why are they calling his actions treason instead of denying the veracity of his claims?

Besides, doesn't he have documents supporting his allegations?

[Cementjungle]

I don't know. But if he'll lie about one thing, it is more than likely he'll lie about others.

Do you automatically believe everything that any blogger on the Internet spews?

[ecomcon]

Maybe the PTB want this to become known, and are asking us if we are ok with what they want to do. Snowden is a patsy sent to ask us the question.

I suppose this is to soften us up, and to begin getting us used to the idea of total worldwide surveillance.

I predict nothing will happen. Same with any of these other scandals.

[Slambat]

“I don’t know. But if he’ll lie about one thing, it is more than likely he’ll lie about others.”

Scooter Libby? Yea, they got him the same way. Problem is
pretty much everything he disclosed is true. The question is,
do and should the American people have the right to know
that their government IS data mining every aspect of their
life (public and private) for any purpose they choose?

[Buckeye McFrog]

Sounds to me he just gave an overly broad or abbreviated explanation of what this cryptic X-Ray program was.

[Luke21]

Big Obama spy government fan are we? This is how they operate. Remember Ken Starr? Linda Tripp? They attack the messenger, again and again and again...

[null and void]

I bet by the end of the week we’ll know more about Snownden than we’re ever likely to know about Obama.

[razorback-bert]

That the way I read it, must have been in jump school.

[jeffc]

He broke his legs while at Fort Benning. His intent was to enter the X-ray program...

Note it does not say what he was doing at Fort Benning when he broke his legs. Could he have been training to try out for SF? Doubtful as he should have know he did not qualify with just a GED.

My guess is he stretched the truth and the military spokes... "person" is dancing around it by saying, or actually not saying, what Snowden was doing when his legs were broken.

[Brad from Tennessee]

[Unless you’re Bill Clinton or John Kerry, in which case a mysterious fire breaks out in the warehouse.]

They did have a fire that got a bunch of records but the military was able to reconstruct them by tracking down duplicates from every command an individual had spent time at. This had to be labor intensive but at the time a lot of veterans were accusing the VA of burning the warehouse so they could cheat people out of their benefits.

And you’re right—a lot of “Vietnam” thespians used that fire to explain why their exploits, or even a record of their enlistment, couldn’t be documented.

[Paladin2]

Thanx for the link to the original source. That is what makes the 'net extremely useful.

It's interesting that the FBI (H0lder) initiated the request.

[Girlene]

That's the way I read it.....this article even says so: "In 2003, he enlisted in the US army and began a training program to join the Special Forces. "

He never said he was in the Special Forces....and as far as the GED thing.....could be one of two things. His recruiter neglected to mention that requirement and/or he thought an exception could be made for his special skills. Who knows. People are picking apart little details that could be interpreted one way or another and saying....see...see he was lieing.

He wasn't lieing about PRISM and he wasn't lieing about the collection of Verizon phone call data.