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IRS Employees: We Targeted Conservative Groups on Orders from Washington
Pajamas Media ^ | 06/03/2013 | Bryan Preston

Posted on 06/03/2013 9:21:24 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Ahead of new hearings on the IRS abuse scandal, the House Government Oversight and Reform Committee has released transcripts of depositions it has taken with IRS employees. The employees directly contradict IRS honcho Lois Lerner’s claim that the targeting was merely the work of “rogue” employees in the IRS Cincinnati office.

Q: So is it your perspective that ultimately the responsible parties for the decisions that were reported by the IG are not in the Cincinnati office?
A: I don’t know how to answer that question. I mean, from an agent standpoint, we didn’t do anything wrong. We followed directions based on other people telling us what to do.
Q: And you ultimately followed directions from Washington; is that correct?
A: If direction had come down from Washington, yes.
Q: But with respect to the particular scrutiny that was given to Tea Party applications, those directions emanated from Washington; is that right?
A: I believe so.

The claim that “rogue agents” came up with the Be On the Lookout (BOLO) list never made any sense. The claim that “rogue agents” came up with the many detailed questions that conservative groups were subjected to never made any sense. The claim that “rogue agents” would come up with so much extra work for themselves, outside their normal responsibilities and outside their union contract, never made any sense. Getting unionized workers to do extra work requires the union’s buy-in. Getting bureaucrats to do extra work requires orders from their superiors. That’s how government works.

The IRS itself has blown Lerner’s story apart, saying that as many 88 employees are being looked at. The agency is still evidently trying to contain the scandal to its lower ranks, but the deposed IRS agents say they were following orders from those above them.

Q: Did anyone else ever make a request that you send any cases to Washington?
A: [Different IRS employee] wanted to have two cases that she couldn’t ‑‑ Washington, D.C. wanted them, but she couldn’t find the paper. So she requested me, through an email, to find these cases for her and to send them to Washington, D.C.
Q: When was this, what time frame?
A: I don’t recall the time frame, maybe May of 2010.

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Q: But just to be clear, she told you the specific names of these applicants.
A: Yes.
Q: And she told you that Washington, D.C. had requested these two specific applications be sent to D.C.
A: Yes, or parts of them.

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Q: Okay. So she asked you to send particular parts of these applications.
A: Mm‑hmm.
Q: And that was unusual. Did you say that?
A: Yes.
Q: And she indicated that Washington had requested these specific parts of these specific applications; is that right?
A: Correct.

Congress has a ways to go to prove this, and it needs to stay focused on getting at the truth before jumping to any conclusions in public, but the nature of the questions the IRS asked of its targeted groups read like political opposition research — in other words, political campaign activity. Someone was digging for deep ideological, organizational and membership information on these groups that opposed Obama agenda. “Rogue agents” who are career government workers are not going to come up with questions like that on their own, but someone who bounced back and forth between the Obama campaign and his White House might. Several Obama confidants did that, including David Axelrod and Bob Bauer. Keep that in mind when Axelrod opines on the subject: He may have been involved in it.

Related: Former IRS Chief’s Wife Tweeted Attacks on Same Groups Her Hubby’s IRS was Attacking



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: alinskygovernment; bloodoftyrants; corruption; criminalgovernment; democrats; gettherope; govtabuse; impeachnow; irs; irsscandal; irsscandals; loislerner; shulmanwife; teaparty; tyranny; waronliberty; whirsscandal
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To: SeekAndFind
: I don’t know how to answer that question. I mean, from an agent standpoint, we didn’t do anything wrong. We followed directions based on other people telling us what to do. Well shades of Nuremberg!! Q: Why did you kill all those Jews? A: I didn't doo anythink wrong. Unt I vas chust followink orders.
21 posted on 06/03/2013 9:47:37 AM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslymz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

That question was settled at Nuremburg.


22 posted on 06/03/2013 9:48:53 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Two “Rogue Agents” Responsible For Targeting Conservatives


23 posted on 06/03/2013 9:50:46 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Obama-Ville - Land of The Freebies, Home of the Enslaved)
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To: SeekAndFind

About the IRS and Benghazi Obama has to hide behind his underlings for the wrong things that he has done.

What a loathsome POS.


24 posted on 06/03/2013 9:51:31 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: cripplecreek

“Integrity ridden Republicans”

That’s funny right there.


25 posted on 06/03/2013 9:52:00 AM PDT by Benito Cereno
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To: SMARTY

The Obama supporters do not think like sane people. They cheer him on for doing these things and want more. They love him. They idolize him. They worship at his feet and kiss the ground he walks on..........


26 posted on 06/03/2013 9:55:09 AM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: SeekAndFind
Those visits can only be interpreted as reports between the upper echelon at the Whitehouse aka Obama....and deliberately kept out of the system (emails etc) to cover up what was going on.

Hell....Chicago thuggery is a hangnail compared to "rigging an election".

27 posted on 06/03/2013 9:56:08 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Benito Cereno

LOL we aren’t going to get the votes we need out of Senate republican’ts let alone democrats.


28 posted on 06/03/2013 9:57:23 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Amazing. A full court political dirty tricks campaign conducted by a partisan operative within the IRS.

In 1974 this was non-stop 24/7 coverage about the Evil Republicans.

But not now, not on the MSM. Just a big yawn, and a comment that maybe Mr. Holder could do better.

Time for the Hot Seat in front of Congress, followed by real jail time for members of the Privileged Class in the Government.


29 posted on 06/03/2013 9:58:40 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: Red Badger

Right.. it is certainly nauseating.

I get especially ill listening to ‘journalists’ when their wholesale and unrestrained idolatry makes them sound as if they’d kill one another in a fight over “O’s” toenail clippings...


30 posted on 06/03/2013 10:00:09 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: SeekAndFind


Sorry. That "Defense" has been invalidated since the mid-2oth Century, and won't wash anymore.
31 posted on 06/03/2013 10:05:48 AM PDT by left that other site (You Shall Know the Truth, and the Truth Shall Set You Free...John 8:32)
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To: cripplecreek

Yes. I just saw that too.

I am shaking with anger.


32 posted on 06/03/2013 10:06:50 AM PDT by left that other site (You Shall Know the Truth, and the Truth Shall Set You Free...John 8:32)
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To: SeekAndFind

While the IRS thugs were harassing conservative tax payers, they were doing the hustle into high cost hotels to enjoy their life at a cost of $50 million:

http://www.sfgate.com/news/politics/article/House-panel-Report-finds-50M-for-IRS-conferences-4569647.php#page-1

Example of the high life for an IRS thug:

‘The conference spending included $4 million for an August 2010 gathering in Anaheim, Calif., for which the agency did not negotiate lower room rates, even though that is standard government practice, according to a statement by the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.

Instead, some of the 2,600 attendees received benefits, including baseball tickets and stays in presidential suites that normally cost $1,500 to $3,500 per night. In addition, 15 outside speakers were paid a total of $135,000 in fees, with one paid $17,000 to talk about “leadership through art,” the House committee said.’


33 posted on 06/03/2013 10:09:08 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ('How empty and dead' were they to let Chris Stevens, one of them , die for 'Obama-Clinton fiction?')
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To: Grampa Dave


34 posted on 06/03/2013 10:28:10 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
Anything less is a waste of time.

Either this mess is turned around now, the easiest way, or it will have to done the hard way a little later.

35 posted on 06/03/2013 10:33:14 AM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Trey Gowdy......Nuff said.)
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To: Old Yeller

“So what is congress waiting for? Impeach and imprison.”

Zero will NEVER be impeached. Don’t forget he is the first black president!


36 posted on 06/03/2013 10:39:35 AM PDT by duckman (I'm part of the group pulling the wagon!)
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To: cripplecreek

**** “Government for the government at the expense of the people.” ******

Exactly ... First they exempt themselves.

The great majority of them are running for re-election as well.

TT


37 posted on 06/03/2013 10:39:59 AM PDT by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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To: SeekAndFind

No supervisor can order you to do something that is obviously illegal -


38 posted on 06/03/2013 10:47:43 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conit did haservative resistance to federal authority ever.u)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obviously.
Sensible people knew danmed well that it wasn’t a few “rogue” irs agents who acted completely on their own and not on orders from the top.

It’s like if you come home and the canary cage is open and the canary is gone with just a few yellow feathers on the floor and the cat is looking real contented. That’s what cats do.

Give leftists in government the power to harass their enemies using the full force of the government and they will harass their enemies. That’s what leftists do.


39 posted on 06/03/2013 10:48:20 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Can Congress require the President to testify under oath? Has this ever happened? Seems that this could clear things up rather quickly, unless he is willing to risk impeachment for perjury by lying under oath.


40 posted on 06/03/2013 11:01:14 AM PDT by privatedrive
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