Posted on 05/31/2013 10:02:23 AM PDT by billybudd
US SOLDIER Robert Bales, who killed 16 Afghan civilians during a rampage in Kandahar last year, will escape the death penalty by pleading guilty to murder.
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Sixteen people, mainly women and children, were killed in two villages near the base during the rampage. Some of the bodies were piled up and set on fire.
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Last month, AP spoke to locals in the villages that Bales terrorised. "Relatives of the victims became outraged at the notion Bales might escape the death penalty," it said.
One man, Mohammed Wazir, who lost 11 family members including his mother and two-year-old daughter told reporters: "For this one thing, we would kill 100 American soldiers,"
Said Jan, whose wife and three other relatives were among those gunned down, said: "A prison sentence doesn't mean anything... I know we have no power now. But I will become stronger, and if he does not hang, I will have my revenge."
(Excerpt) Read more at theweek.co.uk ...
You’d really nuke a bunch of innocent people just because they seem “primitive” to you?...ANNNd, Why not?
I also agree, but for different reasons.
The rules of engagement our brave young men struggle under, favoring the enemy, would make a pacifist out of me, too.
I would refuse to fight.
ne man, Mohammed Wazir, who lost 11 family members including his mother and two-year-old daughter... Does anyone believe this? He probably killed 7 of them in ‘Honor killings.’ Oh wait, that’s OK.
they’re reacting to innocent people being murdered, as we would react. ...And what the HELL do you think we are doing?
the reactions of these victims’ families are not so different from the reactions of many freepers when a criminal gets a lighter sentence then he deserves... they want justice... and so would i if someone killed just one member of my family... i cannot fathom 11!
And you know this how?
A magic talisman sprinkled by pacifist fairy dust?
Dedicated killers, no matter how low their IQ, must know that they are endangering their own children, in a culture where personal revenge is the norm.
Why should potential victims view their children with more regard than their own parents?
They should hang this man publicly to show that justice has been done. I bet many good Americans will die because of this murdering bastard’s actions by inspiring locals to take up arms alongside the Taliban.
War. Not a police action. Either secure our borders and bring them all home and we stop sticking our noses everywhere OR we need to fight like you are suppose to fight that means total decimation. If you do not break the spirit of only the enemy fighter and the citizen that hides them you cannot win. This is the proven strategy that brought an end to WW2 before we lost two fold the manpower we lost running up to the invasions. We changed our tactics during Korea and have languished every since.
I am not for killing civilians but I am for winning when we choose to fight. Either win or DO NOT PLAY. Do you think for instance that if the shoe was on the other foot that the “moderate” muslims in those countries would lift a finger in our behalf. If so you are delusional, and please do throw the philosophy that we are better than them yada yada and need to rise above th efray yada yada.
Your opinion. They are worthless or at the very least spineless, they will fight us at the drop of a hat but not their own that are “hijacking a peaceful religion”. BS, wake up this is not Utopia. It is war. A fight for the survival of civilized culture and you fight fire with fire.
In this situation you should be fighting the Taliban/Al Queda and then you would be fighting the true murderers. I do not condone outright murder of civilians but there are two points here: one, there are no civilians over there and two, we can discipline our own that step over the rules. If they want to play tit for tat then I am all in and they will lose.
Wonderful!
You are guided by Jesus Christ, and they are guided by mohammed, a pedophile bandit who pillaged and killed to financed his "religion." An even match?
You may make a personal decision to be ignorant and die for your ignorance.
Many of the rest of us have a different view.
Have you been? The muzzies you meet here are not the same as the ones over there. The whole culture is at war, with us, with each other. The ones you see here are the 1% that actually are smarter than a rock.
As I said either we are all in or all out, I am tired of this half-assed approach to win hearts and minds. I couldn’t care less what happens over there as long as we are out of there. We have more to do here than over there. If we are going to go however I am perfectly at peace with more of their blood being spilled than ours.
You can suppose anything you like.
I prefer to believe that God made man with a brain for a reason, and judging the world and the people in it rationally, and judging them by what they do, not what they say, is a defensible position.
No one but a nut case would condone massacring a whole country, or suggesting it.
We didn't massacre all of Japan or Germany. Just enough of them, selectively, to stop the mutual slaughter.
And stop it, it did.
What is necessary is entirely up to the savages.
It's a bizarro world where you would have me choose between massacring an entire country, or allowing the massacre of my country. And no other choice.
I assume such irrational choices are common in mental institutions.
The military did not do this crime. A Soldier made a personal decision to violate natural and social laws, and he should pay as the law allows.
Now, if any other individual perpetrates a crime out of “revenge”, then he too, should be punished as the law allows. Grow up.
Let’s move into the realm of a state of society rather than a state of war between individuals.
As a OIF/OEF veteran, I agree. Let’s end the charade. After all our Blood and treasure, AFG is still, and will always be, a crap hole. IRQ, on the other hand, shows signs of life and civility between terror attacks (IEDs, personal crimes) but those occur in western countries too.
I know Bob Bales and his wife (I used to work with her).
This is just a tragedy!
Bob served two tours in Iraq and two tours in Afghanistan. In his last deployment in Iraq, he was blown up by an IED and suffered severe cranium damage. Still, within a year, the Army sent him to Afghanistan.
Bales says he doesn’t remember what happened that night. He woke up outside the forward operating base perimeter but he had no recollection of how he got there. Two days before, the Koran burning murders and riots occurred, and one of Bales men was killed. Even up to that night, the ops tempo was threw the roof and lot’s of Intel should increased danger for our guys.
I really think he snapped, and is being honest about not remembering. I also think he had some brain damage from the explosion that went untreated.
It’s shameful how much we are asking of our heroes, especially the seasoned combat NCOs. They are almost always deployed in the thick of it.
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