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To: jonrick46; savagesusie

“. . .which has always been extremely evil in pre-Vatican II America with a true understanding of Christianity. . .”

“. . .Spot on! You made a major contribution.”

To what?the inevitable eventual anti Catholic hatred on FR?

Take a lesson from the French marching in the hundreds of thousands against this cultural travesty. Do that and then see if you can come back against the church. You couldn’t because you would meet thousands of practicing knowledgeable Catholics.

Read the encyclicals, “Human Sexuality and Marriage”, and “Humanae Vitae”, both written by Popes and their staffs and both are post Vatican II, whatever that means to you. They both renounce the rampant illicit sexual mores and both are prophetic in their findings and are both, along with all Catholic teaching, charitable but firm in denunciation of practicing the act of homosexuality.

What do you want, Pope Francis to goose step and others to line up and scream?

It’s up to people to get these things done. We are a government by the people. If we don’t want big government nor interference by churches, or institutions that call themselves churches but aren’t, then we have to do something. Now you want the Church to do something? They’ve said the practice of homosexuality is bad and evil. So read that and go out and stop the open practice of homosexuality. But keep your hatred of the Church out of this.

Or read about what you are criticizing.

There is NOTHING in the Catholic Church which promotes homosexuality.


120 posted on 05/27/2013 11:43:06 AM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

France is officially Roman Catholic but the participation rate as I have heard it reported is dismally low. But, it also would tend to mean that those who DO go to worship are serious about it; they aren’t going just because their neighbors go, a temptation that may be larger in a society where a larger proportion of people park their rears on pews on Sunday. And I’d wager that most French Protestants are also out there, pardon the pun, protesting, being serious for the same reason.


130 posted on 05/27/2013 1:02:34 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: stanne
There is NOTHING in the Catholic Church which promotes homosexuality.

I wish it were true, if you mean the Roman Catholic church according to the flesh (kata sarkos). Some "ideal church" which doesn't count the perved priests, I suppose so. I can say that there would be a holy stir if this new Pope Francis decided to pay some of these gay parishes a personal visit to call them out on it. The internet has made the world small, this is not like St. Peter's world.

131 posted on 05/27/2013 1:05:12 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: stanne
Re: ". . . which has always been extremely evil in pre-Vatican II America with a true understanding of Christianity. . .”

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I am not familiar with the issues with Vatican II and its impact on America. When savagesusie opened up her piece with, "Marxist homosexuals (Cultural Marxists in 30’s) infiltrated everything (Bella Dodd’s Book)-—Atheists/Sodomites all/ Kinsey/Hefner/Friedan/Hay—all to destroy us from within," I thought this opened up an area that one could look at in reference to Vatican II. Was Vatican II infiltrated by Marxists? Vatican II is a subject I am totally unfamiliar as there is any push to reform the Church to its preVatican II culture.

From what I do know, the Catholic Church has been in a fight with these Marxist critters for a long time. The Church has done much to strengthen the family. For a good look read Pope Pius XI's Casti Conubii. I am confident the Catholic Church will fight the atheist/Marxists' effort to destroy the family and its sovereignty over children.

Destroying the Boy Scouts is just one more way they have taken away an important way families can influence the character of their children. If these totalitarians have their way, they will take children away from their parents by force to be indoctrinated by government forms of the Boy Scouts.

133 posted on 05/27/2013 1:31:51 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: stanne

Don’t yell at me-—Yell at the Vatican and Fr. Oko: http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2013/02/fr-dariusz-okos-major-article-with-pope.html

Or yell at Archbishop Fulton Sheen who converted Bella Dodd: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isxEwBxmS5c

Do you ignore the homosexual cardinals and bishops and priests—the ones molesting the Catholic boys and protecting the “homomafia” that Fr. Oko wrote about-—in his Vatican requested investigation of the Homoheresy infiltrating the liturgy and most US churches. You know—the ones who hold “gay” masses at Universities TODAY and lie to the congregations about “sin” and Evil.

AND Notre Dame and other so-called”Catholic” universities who promote V-Monologues and other trash and evil and allow abortion advocates to be honored and celebrated (including Cardinal Dolan allowing Zero at Catholic “dinners” to give his evil agenda a platform).

The blurring of the Truth—the emasculation of the Church—forcing Marxist ideology into the liturgy-— the destruction of the understanding of Natural Law in children-—the destruction of the foundation of the Summa—the Foundation of Canon Law—Natural Law Theory.

Human Vitae was great-—I agree-—but the “clown” masses and the molestations are hardly promoting the Catholic Canon. The making boys interchangeable with girls (girl-altarboys)—is Marxism—hardly a respecting of Natural Law and the differences in the nature of boys and girls. It destroys Reason—Logic and Virtue and the understanding of the Truth and the “Bride” of Christ and simply confuses and corrupts children.

Feminization of the Catholic Church has driven out males and the masculine. It has destroyed the Church from within.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d4eANuMXd8

By the way—I love the Catholic Canon-—I am a profound Catholic. I hate corruption and evil passed as “Truth” and will attack evil even if it is inside the Catholic Church. We are called by God to do it.


167 posted on 05/27/2013 9:02:32 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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