A better idea is for all the homes to be welcomed into the ranks of the Jewish Scouts.
Un-Orthodox Jews.
The public accepts prostitutes, alcoholics and drug addicts. This doesn't mean they approve of the lifestyle. Sigh, why are American Jews the most liberal on the planet?
"On my honor I will do my best ..."
Frankly this is illustrative of the effect a Jewish agenda can have.
Not entirely knocking it. But it can and does go overboard.
Some places do much better without Jewish influences setting an agenda. Boy Scouts is one of them.
Hollywood for example is run by Jewish influences. (I know, I know, but it mostly is)
All gay, all the time.
We need a bit less of that. It is not all wrong, but where it is wrong, it can take over.
I believe the Boy Scouts should be left (exactly) as they are.
This is why Orthodox Jews I know no longer hide their open contempt for liberal JINOs. The comments sections on Jewish websites show an outright civil war.
It occurs to me that with our media, the police, the Politicians giving us a constant drumbeat of “it’s for the children” and we must protect the “children; that the very idea or concept of us putting our children, aka ‘young men” into situations where sexual predators are not only allowed but “celebrated” for diversity’s sake is not only extremely stupid/dumb/idiotic but hazardous on so damn many levels is an insane proposition. The Boy Scouts leadership(s) should fight back and not knuckle down to these chowderheads for if they do because of “Money/Funding” then they Boy Scouts of America is a doomed organization. No conscientious family will risk putting their sons at risk in this manner.
With that being said, I have no doubt that they will capitulate. Such is life... They might as well just shut the whole thing down, it would be so much kinder for the organization to die while fighting for their principles than as an object of ignoble disgrace for compromising on their Core Principles.
And yes I know, that the current proposal is only for admitting openly Gay/homosexual youngsters and not troop leaders. Anyone with a lick of common sense knows that the slippery slope is no longer ahead of the organization, they are sliding down it at full speed. There will be openly Gay/Homosexual Scout within a few years because they will not want to fight anti-discrimination lawsuits over it.
Isn’t there enough in the Old Testament about sin and homo lifestyle?
Yes there is. Jews without a book I guess.
Liberal Judaism and Liberal Christianity are strange birds. Its an indication of those who don’t really believe but want the social trappings of religion. Being a Jew or Christian or Catholic is just a label they embrace often purposely to undermine the very religion they identify with.
Liberals are like that. That is why they seek to force their way into predominantly conservative organizations. You never see conservatives trying to become members of GLAAD or other left wing groups nor do we try to take over them or change their policies. That is the difference between conservatives and liberals. We may not like them but we respect their freedom to believe what they believe and run their organizations the way they see fit. That is something that used to be appreciated in this country. The idea of Freedom of Association today has become chained down in order to promote politically correct homogeneity.
The whole idea of gay scouts is based on a false narrative. The first being that young people of scouting age are mature enough to identify with a sexual orientation and even if they are should it be something that is a focus? Scouting was never about sex in my troop. It was the furthest thing from our minds and that was a good thing and while that may not be the case for ever child its during this time of development that it is important that bad sexual influences not enter in. The last thing a young man needs who is just starting to deal with his sexuality is another misguided boy showing sexual interest in him. So much time is spent on the self esteem of self identified homosexuals but what about the majority of normal boys?
Do we really want to tolerate the environment at campouts that is indistinguishable from that at English boarding schools? I sure don’t. Its unnecessary. Homosexuality by its very nature is largely predatory simply because most people do not have such overt tendencies which means that those with such drives who wish to fulfill them usually have to do it through subterfuge with those who identify as straight usually involving some form of sexual overtness. A friend of ours encountered such a situation when a “bisexual” girl joined their church and badly influenced their impressionable daughter for a time who then went through a phase where she approached nearly all her girl friends trying to get them to kiss her making inappropriate uncomfortable comments, etc. Thankfully it passed but not before all the other girls had to deal with it. It doesn’t help that the common accepted stereotype of gay behavior is one that tolerates sexual overtness in language and demeanor so much so that it is almost expected. Sure you can kick them out if they cause trouble but why invite trouble to begin with. Its like inviting a child that is proud pot smoker into a troop provided they don’t smoke pot at camp.
A "partial ban"?
What does that mean?
No sodomy on even-numbered days in even-numbered tents?
Any open acceptance of sodomists will destroy the BSA.
What sensible, responsible parent will approve of their son going on overnight camping trips with avowed homosexuals?
I hate to point out the obvious, but the unwillingness of moral, Orthodox Jews to condemn or reject leftist atheist and even antisemitic Jews has created the same problem that Muslims have when they do not condemn or reject Islamism.
In other words, Orthodox Jews must finally *define* Judaism as a religion, not as a culture or philosophy or a people. And if someone does not embrace moral Judaism, they should no longer be called Jews.
It really is as serious as when some ancient Hebrews just could not *resist* making burned sacrifices of their children to Ammonite god Moloch. Today there are far too many Jews who do the same to the atheist god Marx.
In effect, the penalty must be near the same. For sacrificing to Moloch, Hebrews were to be killed. Even *not* killing such Hebrews was a crime in itself. Today failed Jews should not face real death, but only the death of expulsion, that they and their descent are no longer called Jews or recognized as such by other Jews.
Funny how the contemporary Jewish intellectuals have always been on the wrong side of history when it comes to consequences for their religion.
Scouts take on the image of who sponsors them.
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I wonder if any other religious groups are supporting mentally ill sex perverts in the BSA> Any religious group that does so is violating the tenets of their religion, since every religion in the worlds holds illicit sex of any kind - what to speak of the "crime against nature" - as an abominatble sin. I thought homos in the BSA was now on the books; from the article it appears it's not a done deal yet?
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These Jews need to spend more time reading the Torah. And they should remember that Jews were hated in the Hellenistic world for opposing pederasty.
moles.
They are implying ALL of the same faith are thinking the same.
it is the false peer propaganda.
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Either such organizations exist to help shape young minds or they do not. To celebrate abnormal desires is to corrupt youth.
After 18, you may frown on such activity, but the adults can make up their own minds to engage in self-destructive behavior.
Sex positive advocates frankly don’t care if it is “genetic” or the result of upbringing (or even just a curious whim). They seek to end all moral judgments over all sexual pairings at any time (regardless of sex, age, relation, marital status, number, or species of partner(s)).
The sheltered goal is to “smash the patriarchy”.
The majority of births now occur out of wedlock (and not to teens). This is by design, not because of “flawed abstinence education”.
Statements like this make me wonder whether Chairman Kreimer has actually spent significant time camping and hiking with scouts over the years. If he did he probably would NOT recommend allowing openly gay boys into the ranks.
Unbelievable! Mr. Kreimer, please realize that you are supporting a transient popular culture over years of tradition and experience based on natural law. That must be more important to you than preserving a wholesome and healthy and proven culture.
Sounds like the Scouts have been infiltrated by the atheist ACLU.