Jewish Scouting leaders vocal on gay inclusion

Jewish Telegraphic Agency ^ | May 9, 2013 | Gil Shefler

[Olog-hai]

Jewish Scouting leaders are taking a vocal role in efforts to pass a historic resolution that would partially lift a ban on gays in the Boy Scouts of America.

In a meeting of the National Jewish Committee on Scouting in February, members voted overwhelmingly in favor of a resolution lifting the BSA’s longstanding ban on gay members. … The resolution would not change the BSA’s ban on gay adult leaders.

“I am advocating for complete change and inclusiveness,” NJCOS Chairman A.J. Kreimer told JTA this week. “I’m speaking with other people and as an area president, one of 26 in the country, I have advocated for fellow Scouters to do the same.”

The struggle over the BSA’s position on gays has divided the national youth organization at a time when public opinion has grown markedly more accepting of homosexuality. …

[Rashputin]

"And what do you perceive a “Jewish agenda” to be? That phrase is too close to “Zionist agenda”."

Hmmmm. "too close to Zionist agenda".

"As for ZC, I took the handle to be ironic, as my handle is."

So obviously you're familiar with the screen name but don't find it to be, "too close to Zionist Agenda".

"I don’t know what you’re referring to, but it seems like something was misinterpreted, never mind some wires being crossed."

I see. So it's true that there are some animals who are more equal than others.

Jewish folks who aren't liberal idiots are quick to get their panties in a wad when anyone uses a phrase that doesn't meet their approval but more than happy to ignore the behavior of their fellow conspirators who routinely slander a billion Catholics at a whack. That sort of double standard is exactly what feeds the numskull antisemitic crowd.

Shed the double standard and there won't be nearly as many people believe at least a little of the garbage that gets spread about the "Jooooz".

[Olog-hai]

I don’t comprehend the chip on your shoulder, but anyone who is OK with terms that are used by Hamas I would presume to have abandoned their Catholicism.

Christianity is not a faith that requires human confidence to bolster; I seem to recall in the book of Psalms that we should bear scorn for the sake of God anyway (Psalm 69:7).

[Rashputin]

"I don’t comprehend the chip on your shoulder,"

I don't have a chip on my shoulder unless you think my trying to make a point to you about how you're perceived is a chip on my shoulder. And, I especially don't care for a discussiuon of religion outside of the religion forum.

You see people being careless in how they phrase things and using expressions you don't like but you see nothing wrong with others who notice and make a point of the same things being expressly and deliuberately offensive.

If you think that doesn't feed exactly the sort of language and terminology that you find offensive or borderline, so be it. You obiously don't think it's worthy of note so fine, have a nice day.

[Olog-hai]

I honestly have no clue what you are talking about. You appear to be ranting over something that has nothing to do with me at all.

You seem to be angry at one Jew expressing a negative view of Catholics (and without seeing the context, I have no idea if it’s an attack on all Catholics and even if it were, is it not so that the ultimate judge knows the truth and will defend those who are slandered?), and with this diatribe making it look like the one Jew represents all Jews.

I on the other hand spoke up against an attack on all Jews (when one says “Jews” with no qualifying distinction, it can only mean that all Jews are meant) when the type of Jews represented in this thread are of the liberal caste. Much like Pelosi and Biden are unlike very many other Catholics and are indeed heretical and liberal versions of same, being nominal Catholics just like the Jews that are the subject of this thread are nominal Jews in terms of Judaism.

So kindly don’t drag me into your spat with Zionist Conspirator; sort that out on your own. And have more confidence in your beliefs.

[Seeing More Clearly Now]

These people who have made this declaration do not speak for Judaism or for all Jews. The Torah, aka The Five Books of Moses, aka the Pentateuch abhors homosexuality and unequivocally describes it as an abomination, a cardinal sin. Any Jew who embraces it has abandoned one the main tenets of his religion. Ditto for Leftist Protestants, Catholics, Episcopalians, Lutherans, Baplists,

[wardaddy]

Its not anti Semitic to oppose Jewish progressives hellbent on cultural revolution and transformation since....long as I can remember

That is misusing the term like folks misuse racism

[wardaddy]

You can do better than that

It feels like you posted this thread just to ...as a Jew....call folks anti Semite

I hate to break it to you but to many of us....

Every time we see the social engineering vanguard at work and that person has a Jewish surname

Frankly I am not surprised

Why Jews veer to leftism is a subject of debate

My hunch is lack of faith and looking to recreate man in earth

Messianic humanism

[wardaddy]

Don’t associate Jews with liberalism?

And 3/4s vote Democrat?

So don’t associate blacks and Latinos with leftism either?

Nuts

[wardaddy]

Don’t let him bully you

He was trolling for fun

You said nothing wrong

[wardaddy]

They are more influential than just in their small way

Numbers wise yes

Influence in media particularly....huge....in fact arguably largest single demographic of progressives in media and film

[wardaddy]

The sooner that liberal Jews stop calling themselves Jews, the better things will be.

Dang Darrell

How uncharacteristically intolerant and non diversity appreciative of you?

If I made such a statement about liberal blacks you would call me a neoconfederate bigot as is your wont

For the record

No matter how infuriating I find Jewish liberals and their incessant activism

They damn well have the right to be considered Jewish if they like even if non observant...its their DNA

If observance is the criteria then about half those who call themselves Christians should quit being called Christian too while you're at it

[Cringing Negativism Network]

Thank you for saying that.

Shalom.

[Jewbacca]

I’m sorry, that’s just paranoid.

As much as I’d like to control the world and the media sometimes, I’ve apparently missed the meeting at the shul -— oh wait, because no such conspiracy exists.

In reality, I’m pretty happy if I could just live on the beach in Israel.

[ArrogantBustard]

Faggotry is as unJewish as it is unChristian, and for the same reason.

The Lord, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob; The Word who became Flesh and dwelt among us, through Whom all things were made, DIDN'T MAKE US THAT WAY. Faggotry is a direct and unequivocal rejection of His Divine Plan.

[dfwgator]

Cultural Jews.

[Hacksaw]

Jewish Scouting leaders are taking a vocal role in efforts to pass a historic resolution that would partially lift a ban on gays in the Boy Scouts of America. In a meeting of the National Jewish Committee on Scouting in February, members voted overwhelmingly in favor of a resolution lifting the BSA’s longstanding ban on gay members. … The resolution would not change the BSA’s ban on gay adult leaders.

These Jewish scouting leaders then need to form their own scouting organization instead of trying to impose homosexuality on Christian scouts. Of course, that would not happend because sticking it to the Christians is the whole point.

[Olog-hai]

That’s like associating Catholics with liberalism as well since most of the Catholic vote went to the Democrats in ’12 too. The Catholics on here would rightly take exception to that.

[Olog-hai]

What’s a “Jewish surname”?

[wardaddy]

I never used the word conspiracy, you did.

I don’t think Jews control much as some monolithic bloc.

I do think leftist Jews share similar world view same as folks like me do and you know it instinctively in one another’s company.

Here’s a thread from Free Republic years ago and just look at Al Franken’s guest list

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1270257/posts

THE RUNUP TO KERRY’S DEBACLE Left-wing “reporters” met with Kerry in Al Franken’s apartment
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1103384/posts ^ | 11/4/04
Posted on 11/4/2004 8:49:27 AM by Liz

BACKSTORY Posted on FR

In an effort to galvanize the message Kerry wants to deliver in the time remaining, he convened a powerful roster of journalists and columnists in the New York City apartment of Al Franken.....

The gathering could not properly be called a meeting or a luncheon.

It was a trial.

The journalists served as prosecuting attorneys, jury and judge. The crowd I joined in Franken’s living room was comprised of: Al Franken and his wife Franni; Rick Hertzberg, senior editor for the New Yorker; David Remnick, editor for the New Yorker; Jim Kelly, managing editor for Time Magazine; Howard Fineman, chief political correspondent for Newsweek; Jeff Greenfield, senior correspondent and analyst for CNN; Frank Rich, columnist for the New York Times; Eric Alterman, author and columnist for MSNBC and the Nation; Art Spiegelman, Pulitzer Prize winning cartoonist/author of ‘Maus’; Richard Cohen, columnist for the Washington Post; Fred Kaplan, columnist for Slate; Jacob Weisberg, editor of Slate and author; Jonathan Alter, senior editor and columnist for Newsweek; Philip Gourevitch, columnist for the New Yorker; Calvin Trillin, freelance writer and author; Edward Jay Epstein, investigative reporter and author; Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., who needs no introduction.

We sat in a circle around Kerry and grilled him for two long hours.

In an age of retail politicians who avoid substance the way vampires avoid sunlight, in an age when the sitting President flounders like a gaffed fish whenever he must speak to reporters without a script, Kerry’s decision to open himself to the slings and arrows of this group was bold and impressive.

He was fresh from two remarkable speeches – one lambasting the Patriot Act, another outlining his foreign policy ideals while eviscerating the Bush record – and had his game face on.

He needed it, because Eric Alterman lit into him immediately on the all-important issue of his vote for the Iraq War Resolution. The prosecution had begun.

Or the famous Journolist from 2008 ..again courtesy of thuis very forum:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2573077/posts

1. Spencer Ackerman - Wired, FireDogLake, Washington Independent, Talking Points Memo, The American Prospect
2. Thomas Adcock - New York Law Journal
3. Ben Adler - Newsweek, POLITICO
4. Mike Allen - POLITICO
5. Eric Alterman - The Nation, Media Matters for America
6. Marc Ambinder - The Atlantic
7. Greg Anrig - The Century Foundation
8. Ryan Avent - Economist
9. Dean Baker - The American Prospect
10. Nick Baumann - Mother Jones
11. Josh Bearman - LA Weekly
12. Steven Benen - The Carpetbagger Report
13. Ari Berman - The Nation
14. Jared Bernstein - Economic Policy Institute
15. Michael Berube - Crooked Timer, Pennsylvania State University
16. Brian Beutler - The Media Consortium
17. Lindsay Beyerstein - Freelance journalist
18. Joel Bleifuss - In These Times
19. John Blevins - South Texas College of Law
20. Eric Boehlert - Media Matters
21. Sam Boyd - The American Prospect
22. Ben Brandzel - MoveOn.org, John Edwards Campaign
23. Shannon Brownlee - Author, New America Foundation
24. Rich Byrne - Playwright
25. Kevin Carey - Education Sector
26. Jonathan Chait - The New Republic
27. Lakshmi Chaudry - In These Times
28. Isaac Chotiner - The New Republic
29. Ta-Nehisi Coates - The Atlantic
30. Michael Cohen - New America Foundation
31. Jonathan Cohn - The New Republic
32. Joe Conason - The New York Observer
33. Lark Corbeil - Public News Service
34. David Corn - Mother Jones
35. Daniel Davies - The Guardian
36. David Dayen - FireDogLake
37. Brad DeLong - The Economists’ Voice, University of California at Berkeley
38. Ryan Donmoyer - Bloomberg News
39. Adam Doster - In These Times
40. Kevin Drum - Washington Monthly
41. Matt Duss - Center for American Progress
42. Gerald Dworkin - UC Davis
43. Eve Fairbanks - The New Republic
44. James Fallows - The Atlantic
45. Henry Farrell - George Washington University
46. Tim Fernholz - American Prospect
47. Dan Froomkin - Huffington Post, Washington Post
48. Jason Furman - Brookings Institution
49. James Galbraith - University of Texas at Austin
50. Kathleen Geier - Talking Points Memo
51. Todd Gitlin - Columbia University
52. Ilan Goldenberg - National Security Network
53. Arthur Goldhammer - Harvard University
54. Dana Goldstein - The Daily Beast
55. Andrew Golis - Talking Points Memo
56. Jaana Goodrich - Blogger
57. Merrill Goozner - Chicago Tribune
58. David Greenberg - Slate
59. Robert Greenwald - Brave New Films
60. Chris Hayes - The Nation
61. Don Hazen - Alternet
62. Jeet Heer - Canadian Journolist
63. Jeff Hauser - Political Action Committee, Dennis Shulman Campaign
64. Michael Hirsh - Newsweek
65. James Johnson - University of Rochester
66. John Judis - The New Republic, The American Prospect
67. Michael Kazin - Georgetown University
68. Ed Kilgore - Democratic Strategist
69. Richard Kim - The Nation
70. Charlie Kireker - Air America Media
71. Mark Kleiman - UCLA The Reality Based Community
72. Ezra Klein - Washington Post, Newsweek, The American Prospect
73. Joe Klein - TIME
74. Robert Kuttner - American Prospect, Economic Policy Institute
75. Paul Krugman - The New York Times, Princeton University
76. Lisa Lerer - POLITICO
77. Daniel Levy - Century Foundation
78. Ralph Luker - Cliopatria
79. Annie Lowrey - Washington Independent
80. Robert Mackey - New York Times
81. Mike Madden - Salon
82. Maggie Mahar - The Century Foundation
83. Amanda Marcotte - Pandagon.net
84. Dylan Matthews - Harvard University
85. Alec McGillis - Washington Post
86. Scott McLemee - Inside Higher Ed
87. Sara Mead - New America Foundation
88. Ari Melber - The Nation
89. David Meyer - University of California at Irvine
90. Seth Michaels - MyDD.com
91. Luke Mitchell - Harper’s Magazine
92. Gautham Nagesh - The Hill, Daily Caller
93. Suzanne Nossel - Human Rights Watch
94. Michael O’Hare - University of California at Berkeley
95. Josh Orton - MyDD.com, Air America Media
96. Rodger Payne - University of Louisville
97. Rick Perlstein - Author, Campaign for America’s Future
98. Nico Pitney - Huffington Post
99. Harold Pollack - University of Chicago
100. Katha Pollitt - The Nation
101. Ari Rabin-Havt - Media Matters
102. Joy-Ann Reid - South Florida Times
103. David Roberts - Grist
104. Lamar Robertson - Partnership for Public Service
105. Sara Robinson - Campaign For America’s Future
106. Alyssa Rosenberg - Washingtonian, The Atlantic, Government Executive
107. Alex Rossmiller - National Security Network
108. Michael Roston - Newsbroke
109. Laura Rozen - POLITICO, Mother Jones
110. Felix Salmon - Reuters
111. Greg Sargent - Washington Post
112. Thomas Schaller - Baltimore Sun
113. Noam Scheiber - The New Republic
114. Michael Scherer - TIME
115. Mark Schmitt - American Prospect, The New America Foundation
116. Nancy Scola - Personal Democracy Forum
117. Rinku Sen - ColorLines Magazine
118. Julie Bergman Sender - Balcony Films
119. Adam Serwer - American Prospect
120. Walter Shapiro - PoliticsDaily.com
121. Kate Sheppard - Mother Jones
122. Matthew Shugart - UC San Diego
123. Micah Sifry - Sunlight Foundation, Personal Democracy Forum
124. Nate Silver - FiveThirtyEight.com
125. Jesse Singal - The Boston Globe, Washington Monthly
126. Ann-Marie Slaughter - Princeton University
127. Ben Smith - POLITICO
128. Sarah Spitz - KCRW
129. Adele Stan - The Media Consortium
130. Paul Starr - The Atlantic
131. Kate Steadman - Kaiser Health News
132. Kay Steiger - Center for American Progress
133. Jonathan Stein - Mother Jones
134. Sam Stein - Huffington Post
135. Matt Steinglass - Deutsche Presse-Agentur
136. James Surowiecki - The New Yorker
137. Jesse Taylor - Pandagon.net
138. Steven Teles - Yale University
139. Mark Thoma - The Economists’ View
140. Michael Tomasky - The Guardian
141. Jeffrey Toobin - CNN, The New Yorker
142. Rebecca Traister - Salon
143. Karen Tumulty - Washington Post, TIME
144. Tracy Van Slyke - The Media Consortium
145. Paul Waldman - Author, American Prospect
146. Dave Weigel - Washington Post, MSNBC, The Washington Independent
147. Moira Whelan - National Security Network
148. Scott Winship - Pew Economic Mobility Project
149. J. Harry Wray - DePaul University
150. D. Brad Wright - University of NC at Chapel Hill
151. Kai Wright - The Root
152. Holly Yeager - Columbia Journalism Review
153. Rich Yeselson - Change to Win
154. Matthew Yglesias - Center for American Progress, The Atlantic Monthly
155. Jonathan Zasloff - UCLA
156. Julian Zelizer - Princeton University
157. Avi Zenilman - POLITICO

and that is just starters...i am not paranoid to think Jewish leftists dominate the media and film

i do not particularly see it as a conspiracy however it does appear that when need be that some will “work together” to get their way...unseemly for journalist in my opinion

I fear this is all providential actually...two competing ways of viewing life and God and the world.

I’m not sure what makes a Jewish conservative but whatever it is should be patented.

[Graewoulf]

Thanks for the list of Obamanation Enablers.

Their Commie Professors must be very proud.

_____________

Ponder this:

In the failed world of Communism, all functions of a Society are controlled by a Central Government.

Our Central Federal Government has been easily taken over by Obama to the gleeful cheers of MSNBC and others in the Liberal Agenda Media.

This is as good a time as any to take note of those who have willingly enabled the blatant Communist ideas and programs of Obama to take hold in our Central Federal Government.

It is also a good time to take note of the many dictatorial powers that our sorry US Congress has granted over many decades to the Administration Branch and related Bureaus of our Central Federal Government.

Just to balance our income with our spending, the Central Federal Government must reduce spending by 40 percent.

The longer we wait to “cut or way to prosperity” and repeal and abolish Federal Regulations, the greater our financial debt and less Liberty we will have.

For example, if Central Federal Government Regulations were reduced by 40 percent, our Society would be 40 percent further removed from control by the Central Federal Government.

Currently, there are 3 major Impeachable Scandals that our sorry RINOs could use to remove Obama from our Central, semi-Communist, Federal Government.

My question is: “Do our sorry Congressional RINOs have the POLITICAL MOTIVATION to Impeach and Remove B. Hussein Obama, aka Barry Soetoro, a legal citizen of Indonesia?”