Live Thread: Benghazi Whistleblowers Hearing 11:30 A.M. EDT 5/08/13

House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform ^ | Wednesday, May 8, 2013

[kristinn]

Hearing details:

WASHINGTON – House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa today announced three witnesses who will appear at a full committee hearing, “Benghazi: Exposing Failure and Recognizing Courage,” on Wednesday, May 8, 2013, at 11:30 AM in 2154 Rayburn House Office Building.

“I applaud these individuals for answering our call to testify in front of the Committee. They have critical information about what occurred before, during, and after the Benghazi terrorist attacks that differs on key points from what Administration officials – including those on the Accountability Review Board – have portrayed,” said Issa. “Our committee has been contacted by numerous other individuals who have direct knowledge of the Benghazi terrorist attack, but are not yet prepared to testify. In many cases their principal reticence of appearing in public is their concern of retaliation at the hands of their respective employers. While we may yet add additional witnesses, this panel will certainly answer some questions and leave us with many new ones.”

Witnesses: Mr. Mark Thompson
Acting Deputy Assistant Secretary for Counterterrorism
US Department of State

Mr. Gregory Hicks
Foreign Service Officer and former Deputy Chief of Mission/Chargé d’Affairs in Libya
US Department of State

Mr. Eric Nordstrom
Diplomatic Security Officer and former Regional Security Officer in Libya
US Department of State

In October 2012, the Oversight Committee held the first hearing on the Benghazi attacks, which exposed denials of security requests and forced the Administration to acknowledge that the attacks were not sparked by a protest of a YouTube video, contrary to claims made by Obama Administration officials.

*** NOTE: Press seating will be reserved, but limited. Please arrive early (hearing room will open to press at 10:30 AM) to guarantee a seat. An overflow area will be available. ***

Hearing Details:
Wednesday, May 8th, 2013
“Benghazi: Exposing Failure and Recognizing Courage”
Full Committee, Chairman Darrell Issa, (R-CA) 11:30 a.m. in 2154 Rayburn House Office Building and streaming live at oversight.house.gov.

The hearing is also scheduled to be shown live on C-SPAN 3 and Fox News.

Live stream at C-SPAN.

Also check Fox News live stream.

[Jimmy Valentine]

Issa had better man up and burn that witch from Hell to breakfast.

[HomeAtLast]

“Our committee has been contacted by numerous other individuals who have direct knowledge of the Benghazi terrorist attack, but are not yet prepared to testify.”

Any of them victims who were there in Benghazi on 9/11/12?

It was eight months ago. Supposedly there were around 30 people. They can’t all still be in the hospital. We don’t even have their names, never mind their testimony. Not a single one. WHY?

What did they witness? What is the nature of their injuries? What were they doing there?

[Homer_J_Simpson]

Bookmark for 2:11 from now.

[MulberryDraw]

MSM *crickets*.

Bears repeating. It's astonishing the things they find that are "more important" like the present's comments about sexual problems in the military.

[MagnoliaB]

Me too! Especially the praying.

[Truth29]

Who is the fourth whistle blower who is not testifying?

[Envisioning]

Somebody make sure Obama or Hillary don’t make any last minute plans for a trip out of the country today...(((ping)))

[Boston Blackie]

” May God Bless these brave Whistleblowers” ..... Because The Dictator and his National Network of Propaganda is going to crucify them.

[Cap Huff]

Bump

[ZX12R]

“MSM *crickets*.” They’re milking Cleveland for all they can to distract from this.



"There is no elephant in the room."

[tomkat]

It's astonishing criminally complicit & treasonous the things they find that are "more important" ..

Never more true than today, FRiends :

             

[no-to-illegals]

Thanks kristinn and thanking everyone here that loves this nation. You are here so I know you love America. Thanking each of you.

[Homer_J_Simpson]

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Probably not necessary since this thread will be getting 3 bumps/sec. by then.

[blueyon]

Thank you for starting this thread!

[safetysign]

Say goodbye To Hillary’s plans to run for POTUS.

[MadelineZapeezda]

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[no-to-illegals]

Country Roads Take Me Home. Take Our Nation Back to the Place Where We Belong. In Jesus Name ... Amen.

[KeyLargo]

IBD Editorials

Dems’ Benghazi Hearing Mission: Help Hillary For 2016

Posted 05/07/2013 06:31 PM ET

“What difference, at this point, does it make?” Secretary of State Hillary Clinton infamously shouted at a Jan. 23 Senate hearing when asked if the...

“What difference, at this point, does it make?” Secretary of State Hillary Clinton infamously shouted at a Jan. 23 Senate hearing when asked if the... View Enlarged Image

Benghazi: Congressional Democrats will go all-out to protect their likely 2016 presidential nominee. They won’t ask why a 10-man SWAT team was sent to arrest a filmmaker while pleas for help in Benghazi were ignored.

http://news.investors.com/print/ibd-editorials/050713-655152-benghazi-hearings-jeopardize-hillary-2016-chances.aspx

[Yosemitest]

Latest on Benghazi: Tyrone Woods Painted a Target, But the Missile Never Came, October 29, 2012

Military Scramble Order Overseas, How They Work
First, I've got over 26 years working in military control towers, most of them as the watch supervisor/crew chief on duty.
Scrambling aircraft to respond to urgent situations normally starts at the North American Aerospace Defense Command.
The scramble order comes down through a secured phone call on a direct line.
In the attack on the U.S. embassy on Benghazi, the drone control would have been from MacDill AFB, FL, by U.S. Central Command, and would have been in direct contact, or maybe even remote control to the situation room in the White House.
Watch this 4 minute 48 second video Inside the Situation Room.
The pResident SHOULD HAVE issued to order to scramble fighters to Benghazi, to get there in minimum time.
Then he SHOULD HAVE issued a second order scrambling AC-130 gunships to respond to Benghazi, and have them stand by for more orders.

This should have been controlled by the pResident, who should have monitored and responded with guidance from his Situation Room,

staffed by men and women from the Department of Homeland Security, the intelligence community, and the military,
all of whom are committed to ensuring that the President of the United States is provided all the information and intelligence he needs to do his job.

Read

THE PRESIDENT'S CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY TO CONDUCT MILITARY OPERATIONS AGAINST TERRORISTS AND NATIONS SUPPORTING THEM.

Here's one more piece of information.

“WHO GAVE THE STAND DOWN ORDER?”

That is THE QUESTION,
and if you know anything about government security and government intelligence,
you know that the ONLY person that has that authority is OBAMA!
Hillary is there to divert attention FROM THAT QUESTION.

Like Rush said:

" I'll tell you what happened today was, what I call, what others call, the ruling class, the political elite SAW a vulnerability.

Any time a ranking member of the government who is already in the protected class, which is the Democrat Party, is in the cross-hairs,
they're gonna circle the wagons and protect that person because they're protecting themselves.
And they're protecting the institution of the government, in this case the State Department.
They are not gonna permit a black eye.
The purpose of this, not only to cleanse Hillary and her record and setting up her future,
but this was about cleansing the oversight people and cleansing everybody in Congress,
from the Senate or whatever that was supposed to make sure this kind of stuff didn't happen and held people accountable,
that didn't happen.
This was circle the wagons time and put on a dog and pony show
to MAKE THE PEOPLE THINK it's been dealt with. "

Now we know that Obama was in the room watching Benghazi attack live.

I know from experience in the government (over 30 years) that the communication system allows for IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION to the SITUATION ROOM,
as well as other agencies, of notification of a critical situation such as this.
I'm sure technology has changed and only gotten better since I retired, but read this with focus onFLASH OVERRIDE and FLASH.

The U.S. military also used the letters, relabeled, in their now defunct Autovon phone system.^[3] Here they were used before dialing the phone in order to give some calls priority, cutting in over existing calls if need be. The idea was to allow important traffic to get through every time. The levels of priority available were Flash Override (A), Flash (B), Immediate (C), and Priority (D), with Flash Override being the highest priority. Pressing one of these keys gave your call priority, overriding other conversations on the network. Pressing C, Immediate, before dialing would make the switch first look for any free lines, and if all lines were in use, it would disconnect any non-priority calls, and then any priority calls. Flash Override will kick every other call off the trunks between the origin and destination. Consequently, it was limited to the White House Communications Agency.

Precedence dialing is still done on the military phone networks, but using number combinations (Example: Entering 93 before a number is a priority call) rather than the separate tones and the Government Emergency Telecommunications Service has superseded Autovon for any civilian priority telco access.

Present-day uses of the A, B, C and D keys on telephone networks are few, and exclusive to network control. For example, the A key is used on some networks to cycle through different carriers at will (thereby listening in on calls). Their use is probably prohibited by most carriers. The A, B, C and D tones are used in radio phone patch and repeater operations to allow, among other uses, control of the repeater while connected to an active phone line.

The *, #, A, B, C and D keys are still widely used worldwide by Amateur radio operators for repeater control, remote-base operations and VOIP-based communications systems.

DTMF tones are also used by some cable television networks and radio networks to signal the local cable company/network station to insert a local advertisement or station identification. These tones were often heard during a station ID preceding a local ad insert. Previously, terrestrial television stations also used DTMF tones to shut off and turn on remote transmitters.

DTMF signaling tones can also be heard at the start or end of some VHS (Video Home System) cassette tapes. Information on the master version of the video tape is encoded in the DTMF tone. The encoded tone provides information to automatic duplication machines, such as format, duration and volume levels, in order to replicate the original video as closely as possible.

DTMF tones are sometimes used in caller ID systems to transfer the caller ID information, however in the USA only Bell 202 modulated FSK signaling is used to transfer the data.

There is more you need to read.
Read post #48 of ""Under God" Removed By Obama During Inaguration Pledge" and know that we were warned of this.


This has been planned for a VERY LONG TIME.
Obama is solely responsible for this.
Hillary claimed “No Knowledge” of gun running
and told Rand Paul he needed to ask the CIA.


Let's look at some of the facts.

Obama Arranged Benghazi Trip That Resulted In Murder Of US AMB Chris Stevens

Arms Flow to Syria May Be Behind Benghazi Cover-Up states:
" During the 2011 Libyan revolt against Muammar Qaddafi, reckless U.S. policy flung American forces and money into the conflict on the side of the rebels, who were known at the time to include Al Qaeda elements. Previously the number two official at the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli, Christopher Stevens was named as the official U.S. liaison to the Libyan opposition in March, 2011.

Stevens was tasked with helping to coordinate U.S. assistance to the rebels, whose top military commander, Abdelhakim Belhadj, was the leader of the Al Qaeda affiliate, the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG). That means that Stevens was authorized by the U.S. Department of State and the Obama administration to aid and abet individuals and groups that were, at a minimum, allied ideologically with Al Qaeda, the jihadist terrorist organization that attacked the homeland on the first 9/11, the one that’s not supposed to exist anymore after the killing of its leader, Osama bin Laden, on May 2, 2011. "
[This article is well worth your time.]

Obama the arms broker to al-Qaeda states [this article is also well worth your time] :
" Now we learn that Ambassador Chris Stevens’s mission in Benghazi on that fatal day was to organize the shipment of arms to the rebel militias in Syria.

And that means: the shipment of arms, by order of the President of the United States, to al-Qaeda,
the terrorist organization which the President himself constantly declares to be the enemy of his country. 


No wonder President Obama, Ambassador to the UN Susan Rice, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and the rest of the stoats and weasels have been lying their heads off and trying to put the blame for the whole hideous and tragic episode – for what amounts to an act of war – on somebody’s little video. Scraping the bottom of the excuses-barrel.



The evidence suggests that the Obama administration has not simply been engaging, legitimating, enriching and emboldening Islamists who have now taken over or are ascendant in much of the Middle East.

Starting in March 2011, when American diplomat Christopher Stevens was designated the liaison to the “opposition” in Libya, the Obama administration has been arming them, including jihadists like Abdelhakim Belhadj, the leader of the al Qaeda franchise known as the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group. "

SOURCES: SLAIN U.S. AMBASSADOR RECRUITED JIHADISTS
Egyptian officials say Stevens worked with Saudis against Assad

Was Syrian weapons shipment factor in ambassador’s Benghazi visit? states:
" Libyan-flagged vessel Al Entisar, which means "The Victory," was received in the Turkish port of Iskenderun -- 35 miles from the Syrian border -- on Sept. 6, just five days before Ambassador Chris Stevens, information management officer Sean Smith and former Navy Seals Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty were killed …

… On the night of Sept. 11, in what would become his last known public meeting, Stevens met with the Turkish Consul General Ali Sait Akin, and escorted him out of the consulate front gate one hour before the assault began at approximately 9:35 p.m. local time.

… the timing and the meeting between the Turkish diplomat and Stevens was "unusual."

According to an initial Sept. 14 report by the Times of London, Al Entisar was carrying 400 tons of cargo. …

The cargo reportedly included surface-to-air anti-aircraft missiles, RPG's and Russian-designed shoulder-launched missiles known as MANPADS. …

… It was reported there was a fight about the weapons and who got what "between the free Syrian Army and the Muslim Brotherhood."

' The point is that both of these weapons systems are extremely accurate and very simple to use,' Fox News military analyst Col. David Hunt explained. He said the passage of weapons from Libya to Syria would escalate the conflict. ' With a short amount of instruction, you've got somebody capable of taking down any, any aircraft. Anywhere in the world. ' … "




Rebel Arms Flow Is Said to Benefit Jihadists in Syria by New York Times

Why Libya Cover-Up: Obama Was Arming Al Qaeda & Islamists

Libya's missing weapons being smuggled into Gaza
Israeli intelligence is increasingly concerned about the quantity of Libyan arms flowing into Gaza.

Clinton asked for more security in Benghazi, Obama said no

How U.S. Amb. Chris Stevens May Have Been Linked to Jihadist Rebels in Syria (And It Involves Weapons) [Article has many links.]

Ed Klein: Bill Clinton encouraged Hillary to resign in the wake of the Benghazi scandal

Explain this: Ambassador Chris Stevens killed due to lack of security – Obama adviser Valerie Jarrett gets Secret Service

Libyan Officials Claim US Was Warned 3 DAYS BEFORE Deadly Benghazi Consulate Attack

More details emerge on U.S. ambassador's last moments from CNN states:
" Three days before the deadly assault on the United States consulate in Libya, a local security official says he met with American diplomats in the city and warned them about deteriorating security.

Jamal Mabrouk, a member of the February 17th Brigade, told CNN that he and a battalion commander had a meeting about the economy and security.

He said they told the diplomats that the security situation wasn't good for international business.

'The situation is frightening, it scares us,' Mabrouk said they told the U.S. officials. He did not say how they responded.

Mabrouk said it was not the first time he has warned foreigners about the worsening security situation in the face of the growing presence of armed jihadist groups in the Benghazi area. "


Guard at consulate in Libya says attack was coordinated

Egypt intelligence warns of attacks on Israel, US embassies

Blame Obama for Chris Stevens' murder

Backed by Barack Hussein Obama, Muslim Brotherhood gets ready to overthrow U.S.-ally King of Jordan

Obama Bypasses Congress, Gives $1.5 Billion to Muslim Brotherhood

ALDRICH: Hillary Clinton’s abominable national security record
History of incompetence and dangerous decisions

Obama not subject to charges of treason?

Benghazi: Symbol of Obama's Leadership

Obama Admits He Is A Muslim

So, let us remember.

Muslims are well know for lying about their faith.
MUSLIMS are allowed to LIE and deceive NON MUSLIMS, if it benefits or protects ISLAM.
Qur'an (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie.

Qur'an (3:28) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves."

Qur'an (9:3) - "...Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters..." The dissolution of oaths with the pagans who remained at Mecca following its capture. They did nothing wrong, but were evicted anyway.

Qur'an (40:28) - A man is introduced as a believer, but one who must "hide his faith" among those who are not believers.

Qur'an (2:225) - "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts"

Qur'an (66:2) - "Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), the dissolution of your oaths"

Qur'an (3:54) - "And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers." The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which literally means deceit. If Allah is deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same. (See also 8:30 and 10:21)

Taken collectively these verses are interpreted to mean that there are circumstances when a Muslim may be "compelled" to deceive others for a greater purpose.
Posted by Atheist

For a better understanding of the issue, read HISTORY of Mohammed ( spelled variously; Mahomet, Muhammed, Mehmet, etc. ). then watch William Federer explain it, from Jan. 25, 2012 at CC Chino Hills, CA. It's a MUST WATCH for everyone,Christians, Athiests and even Muslims!

As retired military myself, I've seen the damage of "keeping secrets" about bad leaders.
Obama is EVIL, pure and simple.
Please watch Glenn Beck with Trevor Loudon & his book "Barack Obama and the Enemies Within".

Then watch the 29 minute 13 seconds video Trevor Loudon- An Urgent (and chilling) Message for America.

Obama may be feigning "incompetence," thinking he's too sly, being a "wolf in sheep's clothing" since his mentoring was from Fabian Fascism..

Remember:" The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked : who can know it? "

The "Establishment Republicans" will probably NOT want to IMPEACH the TREASONIST Barack Hussein Obama II.
But it's better for the country that Obama suffer the penalty, the strongest penalty for his actions, and his inactions.
Let's look at the Presidential Oaths of Office.

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States,
and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Now who among us really believes Obama did any of that ?
To Obama, that was "Just words. Just speeches! "
Damn him ! Damn him to hell !

I'll finish this with asking you to read

‘Obama and the Threat to Israel’: See the ‘Absolutely Uncertain’ Video That’s Gotten 650K Hits in Three Days .

Watch the 18 minute 56 second documentary video "Absolutely Uncertain" at "theBLAZE.com" or on YouTube.com, narrated by Irina, the 23-year-old “Jewish New Yorker” and a former Obama supporter .

One other suggestion, read DID OBAMA WANT STEVENS DEAD?
The language is a little abrasive, but spot on. Also read:

How U.S. Amb. Chris Stevens May Have Been Linked to Jihadist Rebels in Syria
(And It Involves Weapons)
October 19, 2012

Image removed because of Getty rights, click here to see image
WASHINGTON, DC – SEPTEMBER 14: Intern Chris Jobson (R) and press assistant Isaiah Calvin (L) of Senate Democratic Media Center sign condolence book for Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens at the U.S. Capitol September 14, 2012 in Washington, DC.

This article by Michael Kelley originally appeared on Business Insider.

[Lady Heron]

Any of them victims who were there in Benghazi on 9/11/12?

It was eight months ago. Supposedly there were around 30 people. They can’t all still be in the hospital. We don’t even have their names, never mind their testimony. Not a single one. WHY?

WHY? Somebody finally asked the right question....because perhaps they were not State Department employees but an intelligence agency's people dealing with the gun running and clean up....which opens up a whole new nest of problems in the form of Iran Contra.

How else do you keep these people who were left to die except for the bravery of 2 people refusing to follow orders. No, there would be at least one with a concise and gratitude if not for a serious reason they stay silent.