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To: MeganC
As a Christian I’ve never understood why it is an article of faith to some people that the theory of evolution be proved wrong. For myself I really don’t care what science does or does not prove, it has no effect on my faith.

The main problem, as I see it, is that evolution is violation of God creating things and declaring they reproduce "after its own kind."

26 posted on 04/29/2013 9:35:50 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Death before sin is a problem as well, because death is a consequence of sin.


31 posted on 04/29/2013 9:38:41 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: OneWingedShark

And the means by which God created everything is broken down in precise detail in the bible?

Let me put this way. In pool, can God get all the balls to go into the holes on the break of the rake? I think all would say yes. Do the balls have to go in instantaneously and simultaneously? Of course not. Now take that example and ramp it up a little bit to the scale of the universe. The goal is still the same, have a specific event occur - creation of Man. Does it really matter that it is done instantaneously and simultaneously? Just like the pool balls, they take their own path to get to the final outcome.

Arguing about the path and duration of the ball’s movements are meaningless, if the intent is the final event - Creation of man.

It doesn’t flipping matter HOW God created man, but that God did.

P.S - Can someone tell me the special biblical exception that allows for an old universe, but young earth? Genesis 1:13-17 doesn’t seem to lend much wiggle room, IMHO. There is TONS of scientific evidence to allow for an old universe.


43 posted on 04/29/2013 10:00:07 AM PDT by SengirV
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To: OneWingedShark

>>>The main problem, as I see it, is that evolution is violation of God creating things and declaring they reproduce “after its own kind.”<<<

IMHO all the talk about evolution does is it might reveal some of how God brought about humanity. Even if evolution becomes a proven fact all it does for me is to reveal the mechanism God used to bring about His will. No one will ever convince me that humanity is a mere accident of chance.


48 posted on 04/29/2013 10:08:26 AM PDT by MeganC (You can take my gun when you can grab it with your cold, dead fingers.)
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To: OneWingedShark
OneWingedShark: "The main problem, as I see it, is that evolution is violation of God creating things and declaring they reproduce 'after its own kind.' "

First of all, "kind" is not a scientific classification, nor can anyone, anywhere define precisely what a "kind" is.
Therefore the word "kind" is meaningless.

Second, except potentially in cases of viable hybrids (i.e., "groler-bears"), no parent ever gave birth to another "species".
What happens instead is that every generation is slightly different from its parents and so over many generations -- thousands, millions -- these changes accumulate to the point where scientists can distinguish separate species, genera, families, etc.

So, it turns out -- however you wish to define "kind", every species does reproduce its own "kind", but every child is slightly changed from its parents, hence: evolution.

119 posted on 04/30/2013 2:43:29 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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