Posted on 04/18/2013 9:40:36 AM PDT by marktwain
When this column covered Congressman Steve Israel's (D-NY) H.R. 1474, to reauthorize the "undetectable" firearm ban, and expand it to cover magazines, and firearm receivers (as opposed to entire firearms), the text of the bill was not yet available. That has now changed, and the bill has some . . . interesting provisions.
Despite Rep. Israel's claim of concern about "undetectable" firearms and magazines, it has become increasingly clear that his real concern is the government's impending loss of control of the people's acquisition of firearms, because 3-D printing and other technologies are quickly putting home manufacture of guns within reach of people with neither gunsmithing skills or the money for major industrial equipment. The "Undetectable Firearms Act" is merely the vehicle for his ban, and has the added advantage of sounding to an ill-informed public as if this law is the only thing standing between them and terrorists sneaking so-called "assault weapons" onto air liners.
Back in January, Forbes reporter Andy Greenberg asked Rep. Israel about his plan to ban printed plastic magazines, and what this means in regard to commercially produced plastic magazines, such as Magpul's hugely popular PMags:
Greenberg: One part of your legislation that you’ve emphasized a lot calls for a ban on the 3D printing of high-capacity magazines like the ones that Defense Distributed 3D-printed and tested in a video posted to YouTube over the last weekend. But there are lots of plastic magazines already for sale, and they’re not covered by the current Undetectable Firearms Act.Israel: Right. We won’t go near those.
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I’d go one step further than allowing bad laws to lapse. I’d like to see all federal, state, and local firearms reviewed, and all bad laws repealed or challenged in the courts. If the liberals are going to play the game of creating bad laws in the courts, we should get into that arena as well and use the courts to challenge and repeal laws that violate any aspect of the Second Amendment, other parts of the Constitution of the Unites States, or of the applicable state constitution.
I remember all the BS over this when it first came up. All the usual suspects were claiming that a Glock is undetectable because it’s plastic. I don’t know if they were really that stupid or if it was just malicious lies.
Problem is that so many of the courts are loaded with liberals who think that the Constitution is a “living document” and they can simply wish away the 2nd Amendment.
They should amend the law to also outlaw Star Trek Phasers, Klingon Disruptors, and Star Wars Blasters.
If they’re outlawing non-existent guns, they might as well do it right!
Mark
I can’t figure out how “undetectable” ammo could be made for “undetectable” magazines.
“I can’t figure out how “undetectable” ammo could be made for “undetectable” magazines.”
That is a very important trick.... I would like to know how to do it myself.
Heinlein’s Razor states
“Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity, but don’t rule out malice.”
I don't think they were “undetectable” as such but I remember a type of revolver which had a cylinder with grooves instead of round chambers. It was fed from a magazine which contained "trounds". The trounds were plastic (glass reinforced Nylon) and held a bullet, power and primer. The shape of the tround was basically triangular but the tip to tip dimension was used to define a radius on what would have been flats with a much smaller blending radius on each tip. The result was a shape that behaved like a cylinder when feeding through the magazine and into the cylinder. If you dropped a few trounds on a table top and placed a book on top of them, you could move the book back and forth like it was on rollers.
The outside of the cylinder was contained in a thin cylindrical shroud which held the trounds in place. The trigger was double action and after a shot was fired, the cylinder indexed to bring in a fresh tround as the expended casing fell from a longitudinal slot.
I believe it was offered as a .38 and had interchangeable barrels of .22Lr and other calibers, it was a most unusual looking weapon which may have been its downfall. I also remember that you could separate the action from the barrel and mount it to a carbine although that might fall afoul of BATF rules.
Regards,
GtG
The furor over “undetectable” anything is just more smoke and mirrors, crap to keep the dummies exercised.
The furor over “undetectable” anything is just more smoke and mirrors, crap to keep the dummies exercised.
Agreed
Regards,
GtG
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