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Barack Obama can't pass gun control despite 90 per cent support.
The Telegraph ^ | April 18th, 2013 | Tim Stanley

Posted on 04/18/2013 5:45:28 AM PDT by apillar

Yesterday, the most modest of gun control proposals died in the Senate. It would have expanded background checks to people purchasing weapons at gun shows and online sales, enjoyed 90 per cent support among the public and came on the back of the tragedy at Newtown. Yet, despite all that it had going for it, the Toomey-Manchin bill raised just 54 votes – six short of the number necessary for passage. “This is a pretty shameful day for Washington,” said Obama afterwards. It wasn’t exactly a red letter day for him, either.

Barack Obama is a lame duck president. Nobody listens to what he says anymore, nobody is interested in winning his approval and nobody much cares if he thinks they have “let the country down”. This is typical for a second-term president who has lost all their leverage because they’re no longer running for office and everybody is patiently waiting for the day when he quits the White House. But Obama's difficult personality has doubled the size of the challenge. Gloating in victory, adolescent in defeat – the Prez doesn’t make it easy to work with him. Why should conservative senators give him a legislative victory after he has spent four years painting them as knuckle-dragging rednecks who hate women and the poor?

Whatever your position on gun control, yesterday’s events are a damning indictment of Obama’s presidency – a flash of style, lots of soaring rhetoric and, when the votes are actually counted, little show for any of it. America has four more years of this lame-duck president telling them that it has let him down. If only he could tear up the Constitution and rule by diktat he might save himself a little disappointment. Alas, American democracy is a stickler for rules.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; obama; obamagunpresser; secondamendment
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The writer point's out what I've suspected for years, that Obama has always been far more popular with Democrat voters, than democrat politicians. As his gun control loss shows, his sway even within his own party is virtually nonexistent (remember, he just barely got Obamacare with huge democrat majorities in both houses).
1 posted on 04/18/2013 5:45:28 AM PDT by apillar
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To: apillar

The reason he’s not as popular with the ‘rat/commie politicians is that he’s going too fast, turning up the heat on the frog too fast, waking the sleeping giant of patriotic opposition.


2 posted on 04/18/2013 5:46:34 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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B(arbara) S(treisand)!

Gallup: Only 4% of Americans Think Gun Control is an Important Problem

3 posted on 04/18/2013 5:47:08 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the confiscation of wealth." --Alan Greenspan)
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To: apillar

90% support from who?

I doubt he has that much support from his immediate family and staff.

On the other hand, he crammed health care into law despite 80% AGAINST, so what’s that mean?


4 posted on 04/18/2013 5:47:29 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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Can someone please cite this 90% number? Did this report check their Excel formulas like Reinhart and Rogoff did not?


5 posted on 04/18/2013 5:48:32 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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I hope Cuomo is seeing the writing on the wall.

He is up for re-election next year.

Maybe Paladino will run again AND ignore the idiots in the GOP who ruined his campaign after he kicked their asses in the primary.


6 posted on 04/18/2013 5:48:48 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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That number is total BS.


7 posted on 04/18/2013 5:48:58 AM PDT by bryan999
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To: apillar

Now they (the ususal suspect) are claiming: Manchin blew it.


8 posted on 04/18/2013 5:49:26 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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Yesterday, the most modest of gun control proposals died in the Senate.

That's as far as I could get.

9 posted on 04/18/2013 5:49:51 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Wyatt's Torch

Who knows where he gets his 90% figure, but all my liberal relations are citing it like it’s proof positive the republicans in congress are evil.


10 posted on 04/18/2013 5:50:39 AM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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Obama's 90% Lies


11 posted on 04/18/2013 5:51:39 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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80% SUPPORT?! From who? Libtard propogandists media scum... that’s about it! The number I’ve been seeing is around 4%, and the limp-wristed pansy Republitards still won’t grow a set.


12 posted on 04/18/2013 5:51:56 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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Obama's 90% Lies


13 posted on 04/18/2013 5:52:06 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Can someone please cite this 90% number? Did this report check their Excel formulas like Reinhart and Rogoff did not?

If I remember correctly, it was from a poll paid for by MSNBC and conducted by Quinipiac University (which happens to be located in Connecticut relatively close to Newtown). So it is suspect to begin with. Also the way the question was asked was vague, "Do you think background checks should be required for gun purchases?" Not about the Manchin-Toomey bill specifically....

14 posted on 04/18/2013 5:52:51 AM PDT by apillar
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A recent shows 4% consider gun control a priority issue.


15 posted on 04/18/2013 5:52:54 AM PDT by AU72
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“It would have expanded background checks to people purchasing weapons at gun shows and online sales”

Pretty sure this is the law right now.


16 posted on 04/18/2013 5:52:57 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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"Can someone please cite this 90% number? Did this report check their Excel formulas like Reinhart and Rogoff did not?"

It depends on how you phrase the question. I have no doubt that 90% think that psychotic mass murderers should be prevented from buying guns. The problem is that's not what Obama's pet legislation does. (Or would have done anything at all to stop Adam Lanza.)

17 posted on 04/18/2013 5:53:23 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: apillar

This story is written like we wish it was.

Obama still has the power. Harry Reid his suck butt is still running the Senate. This bill or one like it will be back and Obama will still be writing Executive orders.

Watch closely and we might see Nancy Pelosi back as Speaker.
Then what will we have to say about a Lame Duck Obama.

We won a small victory on that we are losing in many Democrat States such as mine in Maryland, where we have an iodiot by the name of O’Mally who is bleeding us dry and going after our guns.


18 posted on 04/18/2013 5:53:52 AM PDT by Venturer
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just not 60% of the Senate including Harry Reid.


19 posted on 04/18/2013 5:54:30 AM PDT by sappy (criminaldems)
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To: MrB

More to the point, I believe the Dems think he’s going too fast, too far, and putting their reelection hopes in danger.

If they could, they’d go just as fast and far if their jobs were secure.


20 posted on 04/18/2013 5:54:54 AM PDT by FatherFig1o155 (Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason.)
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