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Why Are the Feds Trying to Identify All Gun Owners in Missouri? (Just concealed carry!)
National Review Online ^ | April 11, 2013 | Andrew C. McCarthy

Posted on 04/11/2013 2:37:49 PM PDT by neverdem

They keep telling you they have noting but good intentions, that to worry about the feds coming for your guns makes you part of “the black helicopter crowd.” But then things like this happen: In Missouri, federal investigators have demanded and obtained from the state government — apparently twice — the entire list of Missouri concealed weapon permit holders.

As Matt Drudge notes, the Columbia Daily Tribune reports that in November 2011 and January 2012, the state highway patrol asked for and received the list of about 185,000 concealed weapon permit holders from the motor vehicle department — the only state agency to store all the names, because an indication that one is a permit holder is noted on driver’s licenses. The information is supposed to be held confidentially by the state, but it was turned over — once on-line, once on a disk — to the highway police, which then proceeded to share it with the federal Social Security Administration Office of Inspector General. State senators trying to get to the bottom of what happened, have been told there was no written request for the information. The state highway patrol says, “The information was provided to law enforcement for law enforcement investigative purposes” — not a very enlightening explanation of why every single licensed concealed weapon owner needed to be investigated by state and federal police. 

Rob Schaaf, a Republican state senator who is pursuing the matters summed it up this way: “Now we know two things. We know that somebody out there, probably in the federal government, wants the list of all the concealed carry holders in Missouri. We know that now. We know one other piece of information – we know the [highway patrol] department is actively and purposefully concealing that information from us.”



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: banglist; concealedcarry; guncontrol; missouri; mo; robschaaf; secondamendment
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To: neverdem

People will simply hide their guns.


21 posted on 04/11/2013 3:54:40 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Jack Hammer

Please see post number 21.


22 posted on 04/11/2013 3:55:21 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: familyop; TigersEye; suijuris

Thanks for the links.


23 posted on 04/11/2013 4:03:17 PM PDT by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: TigersEye
"So much for due process. They don’t even pretend that we have any rights anymore."

They had plenty of practice against fathers and families during the '80s and '90s with the support of government, business and academic leaders. Now, it's everyone else's turn.

Have fun. Enjoy the slide. And BTW, I know who "they" are. Most people involved in politics have no idea.


24 posted on 04/11/2013 4:03:18 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: familyop
Sooner or later everybody gets their turn in the barrel.

"I'm not divorcee father so I didn't say anything."

"I'm not a smoker so I didn't say anything."

"I'm not a gun owner so I didn't say anything."

Wake up, people! Government does not stop until the people stop it.

25 posted on 04/11/2013 4:09:44 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: neverdem
Thanks, neverdem.

Your activism and political passion are always appreciated.

Re: “Are the feds going to be making presumptive diagnoses of dementia based on age, and then say you're too old to have firearms?”

I'd be in favor of presumptive diagnoses for criminal behavior.

If they disarmed all Black males, America's murder and robbery rate would drop by 50%.

26 posted on 04/11/2013 4:12:39 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: neverdem

The House of Representatives should gut this bill and change it so that it applies only the VOTER ID requirements, and NOT to gun control.


27 posted on 04/11/2013 4:13:14 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: neverdem

Prosecute the State Patrol involved, put them in jail!


28 posted on 04/11/2013 4:13:24 PM PDT by nomad
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To: neverdem

Bttt.


29 posted on 04/11/2013 4:16:57 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: neverdem

“He must move inexhaustibly from one issue to the next . Change is brought about through relentless agitation and of a kind that radically disrupts society.”
Alinsky Rules for Radicals


30 posted on 04/11/2013 4:18:57 PM PDT by lucky american (The Democrats will follow the big "D"even if it means going over a cliff.)
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To: neverdem

FTP


31 posted on 04/11/2013 4:20:29 PM PDT by demsux (Obama: THE job destroyer)
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To: neverdem
It's time to push for Constitutional carry nationwide, i.e. no permits or licenses are required to carry concealed, among a bunch of other unrelated initiatives, e.g. green energy BS, Common Core, immigration reform, actual gun grabbing in blue states, etc. We have to get just as organized as the left and push back.

Agreed. If we don't successfully fight them within the system now, we'll be fighting them in the streets, later.

32 posted on 04/11/2013 4:20:57 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: neverdem
A local judge around here suspended a permit because the elderly man accidentally burned his pant leg while starting a fire in the wood stove, on the premise it was a sign of dementia"

There will no end of excuses and duplicitous behavior aimed at denying Americans their 2nd Amendment rights. Up next; Americans' 1st Amendment rights. The looters will not stop until all the Bill of Rights are wiped off the face of the Earth.

33 posted on 04/11/2013 4:24:35 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: neverdem
Why Are the Feds Trying to Identify All Gun Owners in Missouri?

Because they're fascist tyrants too arrogant and power-hungry to realize that 99.99% of our lives is none of their effing business?

34 posted on 04/11/2013 4:32:37 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: neverdem

Missouri Democrat governor Jay Nixon is MIA on the issue.


35 posted on 04/11/2013 4:43:10 PM PDT by em2vn
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To: neverdem

“This year will go down in history for the first time a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future.”

Adolph Hitler (1935 Weapons Act of Nazi Germany)


36 posted on 04/11/2013 4:44:16 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( There's Two Choices. Stand Up and Be Counted ... Or Line Up and Be Numbered.)
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To: neverdem

We had a vote here in KS about guns and the mentally ill and people voted that even the mentally ill have a right to defend themselves. Even my obama loving colleague voted that way.


37 posted on 04/11/2013 4:45:20 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: neverdem

I agree. Time to push legislation everywhere and on all topics. Keep the leftards busy and exhaust them.


38 posted on 04/11/2013 4:45:48 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: neverdem

Liars, traitors, fools and whores.


39 posted on 04/11/2013 4:47:59 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: neverdem

There is ONE solution at this point... as I am sure many of you have identified. Sell all your licensed firearms... and allow all your permits and licenses to expire.

Buy guns like criminals do.

You are now a criminal.


40 posted on 04/11/2013 4:52:36 PM PDT by Rodamala
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