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Why Are the Feds Trying to Identify All Gun Owners in Missouri? (Just concealed carry!)
National Review Online ^ | April 11, 2013 | Andrew C. McCarthy

Posted on 04/11/2013 2:37:49 PM PDT by neverdem

They keep telling you they have noting but good intentions, that to worry about the feds coming for your guns makes you part of “the black helicopter crowd.” But then things like this happen: In Missouri, federal investigators have demanded and obtained from the state government — apparently twice — the entire list of Missouri concealed weapon permit holders.

As Matt Drudge notes, the Columbia Daily Tribune reports that in November 2011 and January 2012, the state highway patrol asked for and received the list of about 185,000 concealed weapon permit holders from the motor vehicle department — the only state agency to store all the names, because an indication that one is a permit holder is noted on driver’s licenses. The information is supposed to be held confidentially by the state, but it was turned over — once on-line, once on a disk — to the highway police, which then proceeded to share it with the federal Social Security Administration Office of Inspector General. State senators trying to get to the bottom of what happened, have been told there was no written request for the information. The state highway patrol says, “The information was provided to law enforcement for law enforcement investigative purposes” — not a very enlightening explanation of why every single licensed concealed weapon owner needed to be investigated by state and federal police. 

Rob Schaaf, a Republican state senator who is pursuing the matters summed it up this way: “Now we know two things. We know that somebody out there, probably in the federal government, wants the list of all the concealed carry holders in Missouri. We know that now. We know one other piece of information – we know the [highway patrol] department is actively and purposefully concealing that information from us.”



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: banglist; concealedcarry; guncontrol; missouri; mo; robschaaf; secondamendment
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1 posted on 04/11/2013 2:37:49 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Silly question.

The feds are trying to identify and track all gun owners everywhere.

Better believe that there’s a plan on the hussein drawing board somewhere to confiscate them ALL.


2 posted on 04/11/2013 2:44:42 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: neverdem

Denver and Kansas City are the alternate capitols of the United States should anything happen to Washington, DC.


3 posted on 04/11/2013 2:47:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: neverdem

Michael Steele, call your office.


4 posted on 04/11/2013 2:47:37 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!n)
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To: neverdem

I have no doubt that the same state officials and bureaucrats in the MO Highway Patrol and Department of Revenue would rush in front of the cameras should any of the little people violate a state privacy law. These officials would want to be first to show the public how diligently they are upholding state law and protecting the public.

Over the last few years, we have had far too many cases of the governing class giving themselves a David Gregory while making sure the laws were vigorously enforced for the little people.

It is time for this outrage to end, and we have as good a case as it gets for some indictments and convictions insulting the rights of the citizens, for whom these overlords presume to work. Shame on them, they seem so hell-bent to complete the Socialist Agenda that no law restrains them.


5 posted on 04/11/2013 2:48:59 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There are some that might like to see that plan tested. ;>)


6 posted on 04/11/2013 2:52:03 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~ I drink good wine, listen to good music and dream good dreams.)
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To: neverdem
Why Are the Feds Trying to Identify All Gun Owners in Missouri?

So they can cross-reference them with HIPAA records later on?

- Clarifies that submissions of mental health records into the NICS system are not prohibited by federal privacy laws (HIPAA).

7 posted on 04/11/2013 2:57:02 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: Jack Hammer

Well, as a smart guy said to me ... so they know you own guns, do you think they will come to get you at home? How dumb is LE (fed or local). Hell no, they will stop you for some reason and find that they need to detain you for some reason and then FEMA camp or something.

Why do they want concealed carry holders ... pretty simple to answer given the above.

You are only paranoid if you don’t really have enemies.


8 posted on 04/11/2013 3:00:41 PM PDT by GOPBiker (Thank a veteran, with a smile, every chance you get. You do more good than you can know.)
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To: TigersEye
Tiger, linkee no workee.

Would love to read it. Can you try again please?

9 posted on 04/11/2013 3:03:08 PM PDT by suijuris
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To: neverdem

For the same reason that the National Socialists in Germany identified anyone of Jewish ancestry. I know that the people here do not believe that. But neither did the Jews until it was too late.


10 posted on 04/11/2013 3:03:54 PM PDT by sport
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11 posted on 04/11/2013 3:04:16 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: neverdem

Looking for Henry Bowman.


12 posted on 04/11/2013 3:13:16 PM PDT by grobdriver
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To: suijuris
Oops!

- Clarifies that submissions of mental health records into the NICS system are not prohibited by federal privacy laws (HIPAA).

More better I hope. ;-)

13 posted on 04/11/2013 3:13:25 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: TigersEye
Thanks!
14 posted on 04/11/2013 3:17:55 PM PDT by suijuris
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To: suijuris

Thank you for pointing out the problem.


15 posted on 04/11/2013 3:21:53 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: neverdem
Missouri Secretly Shares Entire CCW List With Feds Against State Law
RedState
By: Dana Loesch (Diary) | April 10th, 2013 at 09:13 PM | 28
“Apparently from what I understand, they wanted to match up anyone who had a mental diagnosis or disability with also having a concealed carry license,” [Missouri State Senator Kurt] Schaefer said. “What I am told is there is no written request for that information.”


16 posted on 04/11/2013 3:30:51 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: TigersEye
Yep. See comment #16.


17 posted on 04/11/2013 3:33:41 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: familyop

So much for due process. They don’t even pretend that we have any rights anymore.


18 posted on 04/11/2013 3:37:39 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: neverdem

All they have to do is ask and the Missouri bureaucrats roll over and wag their tails? Where’s the authority for this?


19 posted on 04/11/2013 3:43:53 PM PDT by dljordan (Voltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: Just another Joe; darrellmaurina; greeneyes; DoctorBulldog; UCANSEE2; ez; ronnyquest; ...
It's time to push for Constitutional carry nationwide, i.e. no permits or licenses are required to carry concealed, among a bunch of other unrelated initiatives, e.g. green energy BS, Common Core, immigration reform, actual gun grabbing in blue states, etc.

We have to get just as organized as the left and push back. They are pushing on so many different fronts, it's almost making me dizzy.

What's with the Social Security Administration Office of Inspector General getting those names from Missouri? I heard a story from upstate NY via FReepmail. Here:

"A local judge around here suspended a permit because the elderly man accidentally burned his pant leg while starting a fire in the wood stove, on the premise it was a sign of dementia"

Are the feds going to be making presumptive diagnoses of dementia based on age, and then say you're too old to have firearms?

GUN CONTROL LEGISLATION CLEARS HURDLE — WITH GOP HELP

Those RINOs must be primaried. Let me know if you want off my list via FReepmail please. This outrage in Missouri needs to be known far and wide, IMHO.

20 posted on 04/11/2013 3:53:28 PM PDT by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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