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Posted on 04/04/2013 3:37:18 PM PDT by raptor22
Global Gun Control: Despite a prior Senate rebuff, President Obama will likely sign and push a treaty embraced by the world's oppressors and thugs who fear armed citizens.
The treaty's prior rejection by the Senate 53-46 in a nonbinding test vote as part of the budget debate in a body where a two-thirds vote to ratify is required would seem to doom the United Nations pact endorsed by the Obama administration.
However, the president will likely sign it and, as is his custom these days, try to enforce key provisions by stealth, executive order and by "common-sense" regulations and restrictions.
White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said Tuesday that the White House was pleased with the outcome, but "as is the case with all treaties of this nature, we will follow normal procedures to conduct a thorough review of the treaty text to determine whether to sign the treaty."
It is doubtful the president would not sign a treaty he has pushed for through his past and present secretaries of state, Hillary Clinton and John Kerry.
"The U.S. Senate is united in strong opposition to a treaty that puts us on level ground with dictatorships who abuse human rights and arm terrorists, but there is real concern that the administration feels pressured to sign a treaty that violates our constitutional rights," Sen. Jerry Moran, a Kansas Republican, said Tuesday.
Supporters of the pact say it doesn't really threaten our Second Amendment rights, regulates only international arms trade, and won't be ratified anyway.
But there is also real concern that the Obama administration still might use it as a pretext not to sell weapons to allies like Israel and Taiwan, or to restrict the import of firearms and ammunition for individual end users.
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if you look at the test vote against this treaty you will see that no Republican voted for it in the Senate. it requires senate confirmation or ratification and they did a test vote . Almost every democrat voled for this treaty. same as the Obamacare vote all democrats voted for obamacare all Republicans voted against Obama care. not unanimous but similar party line votes against Amnesty
democrat party = traitors = enemy of Americans = enemy of freedom
To uphold Second Amendment rights and prevent the United States from entering into the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty.
Meet the 46 United States Senators (Traitors) who were willing to sign over your 2nd amendment rights to the United Nations.
NAYs -—46
Baldwin (D-WI)
... Baucus (D-MT)
Bennet (D-CO)
Blumenthal (D-CT)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Coons (D-DE)
Cowan (D-MA)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Franken (D-MN)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hirono (D-HI)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kaine (D-VA)
King (I-ME)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Merkley (D-OR)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murphy (D-CT)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schatz (D-HI)
Schumer (D-NY)
Shaheen (D-NH)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Udall (D-CO)
Udall (D-NM)
Warner (D-VA)
Warren (D-MA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)
He's just one man, and doesn't possess the power to make that treaty binding upon the rest of us.
Now, should Congress sign off on it, it would surely be the start of something 'special'.
And for what’s it worth, I don’t think it will ever be ratified.
And where are the podium speeches? The TV talk show appearances? Have you heard more than 2 repubs in the house pontificate? They sure do on gay marriage.
They should have had this front and center weeks ago.
They did not. And when Obama gets his exec order pen out there will likewise be silence rather than impeachment.
Might I suggest Turtle Bay NYC ?
On radio, I heard a caller say “We are in a Cold Civil War”—
I agree 100%. But, increasingly, I’m ready for the war to get hot.
if you look at the test vote against this treaty you will see that no Republican voted for it in the Senate. it requires senate confirmation or ratification and they did a test vote . Almost every democrat voted for this treaty. same as the Obamacare vote all democrats voted for obamacare all Republicans voted against Obama care. not unanimous but similar party line votes against Amnesty
democrat party = traitors = enemy of Americans = enemy of freedom
To uphold Second Amendment rights and prevent the United States from entering into the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty.
46 voted for this treaty . 46 are democrats
Meet the 46 United States Senators (Traitors) who were willing to sign over your 2nd amendment rights to the United Nations.
NAYs -—46
Baldwin (D-WI)
... Baucus (D-MT)
Bennet (D-CO)
Blumenthal (D-CT)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Coons (D-DE)
Cowan (D-MA)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Franken (D-MN)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hirono (D-HI)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kaine (D-VA)
King (I-ME)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Merkley (D-OR)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murphy (D-CT)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schatz (D-HI)
Schumer (D-NY)
Shaheen (D-NH)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Udall (D-CO)
Udall (D-NM)
Warner (D-VA)
Warren (D-MA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)
Neither do I, but that test vote shows us that we are indeed divided between those who love and are willing to defend this nation, and those who would throw it all away for some imagined utopia.
I wish the utopians would just move their asses to some Communist wonderland and leave us the hell alone.
IBD EDITORIAL PING
ditto that
from us in Louisiana
This doesn’t have any clout in the US unless and until the Senate agrees.
Let ‘em screech.
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Not on OUR watch!!!
He better think before he does!
“But there is also real concern that the Obama administration still might use it as a pretext not to sell weapons to allies like Israel and Taiwan, or to restrict the import of firearms and ammunition for individual end users.”
Not content with wrecking the economy of the US, the anti-Constitutional Princeps-in-Chief plans to exend his devastations further to encompass economies in the Czech Republic, Finland and Germany where fine arms are still manufacturered.
Wasn’t Obama’s form of Government tried out in Imperial Rome??
There was a long thread discussion about that a couple of years ago. It turns out there is a bite, even if the _Resident doesn't send the traity -- er, treaty -- to the Senate, or the Senate doesn't act.
The 'Rats have played this game two or three times, w/r/t LOST (Law of the Sea Cluster____) and the International Criminal Court, ee.g., deliberately binding Congress's hands just by signing a treaty that has no chance of ratification.
Dirty Harry and the NWO RiNO's will probably cooperate to rathole this treaty and keep the full Senate from rejecting it. Because once that happens, the measure is dead, dead, deader than St. Peter's doorknob.
But meanwhile, a signed but unratified treaty throws a shadow over Congress and the Courts, by preventing them from enacting anything contrary to the "spirit" of the treaty even though it hasn't been ratified. That's as close as Slick and Hussein have been able to get things worked around the way they like.
Of course, they'd prefer the U.S. be fully subjugated by the U.N., with blue helmets quartered on us and goon squads crashing into homes to strip them of weapons and/or kill the owners out of sight of CNN cameras. But they can't take us there yet.
Yes, it does -- see my last.
Example: Congress, if this thing is signed, "could not" pass a federal open-carry law. Or any law that countenances private ownership of firearms.
This traity -- errr, "treaty" -- would "set a new tone" delegitimizing the Second Amendment and our RKBA.
That's the whole idea.
But an E.O. can allow a President to screw around with it, and dare anybody to mess with him. With a SewerRat majority in the Senate, Bozo's braver than brass, because he knows he can't be touched.
Clinton was the test case, and representative democracy failed ... because Harry Reid and Tom Daschle were there to make sure it failed.
Sen. Byrd in 1998 was the "conscience of the Senate", and he made sure people understood that he thought Clinton "guilty as charged" of "high crimes and misdemeanors" ..... but under Daschle's bludgeoning, he shut up and fell into line, and with that, the Framers' vision of what the Senate should be, died.
As for E.O. <=> the Constitution, see Justice Rehnquist's consideration of inter arma silent leges in his All the Laws but One, a review of contests between con law and executive power throughout U.S. history, with special emphasis on the fantastic precedential damage Lincoln did in the Civil War.
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